Serious input needed on this Question Please

[Piper]

@Optrader

The push for EVs is exactly that. A means for the government to limit our ability to travel. Even without giving the government control of our travel by them shutting down the power grid, total reliance in EV travel could be shut down by natural disasters.How long has power been down in Florida after Hurricane Ian?

EVs running alongside of ICE vehicles and driven by people who choose to drive them is one thing, but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile. Stopping at reasonable is something they don’t do - EVER. EV mandates will come, and soon if they are left in power…

Thanks for the input @Optrader.

I stay on the fence about a lot of issues (like Ukraine) because I don’t trust a thing that Leftists say.

[Publius]

@Optrader

@Piper

While I was doing some research on citizens and driver’s license, I ran across this “right to travel” in the United States.

As a fundamental right inherent in American citizenship and the nature of the federal union, the right to travel in the United States is basic to American liberty. The right precedes the creation of the United States and appears in the Articles of Confederation. The U.S. Constitution and Supreme Court recognize and protect the right to interstate travel. The travel right entails privacy and free domestic movement without governmental abridgement.

In the era of surveillance, the imposition of official photo identification for travel, watchlist prescreening programs, and invasive airport scans and searches unreasonably burden the right to travel. They undermine citizen rights to travel and to privacy. These regulations impermissibly require citizens to relinquish one fundamental right of privacy in order to exercise another fundamental right of travel. The government must preserve these rights in addressing policy goals. The original conception of the right to travel embodies it as a broadly-based freedom that encompasses all modes of transport. Its explicit articulation in the Articles of Confederation became implicit in the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the Constitution. Contrary to the appellate “single mode doctrine,” abridgement of any mode of transportation undermines the constitutionally enshrined travel right. The U.S. Supreme Court needs to rearticulate an originally consistent and politically robust multi-modal right to travel.

"The Right To Travel And Privacy: Intersecting Fundamental Freedoms, 30" by Richard Sobel.

Question. Could limiting our mode of travel (to electric vehicle only) encroach on our “right to travel?”

What about limiting our right to travel during a pandemic?

The push for EVs is exactly that. A means for the government to limit our ability to travel. Even without giving the government control of our travel by them shutting down the power grid, total reliance in EV travel could be shut down by natural disasters.How long has power been down in Florida after Hurricane Ian?

EVs running alongside of ICE vehicles and driven by people who choose to drive them is one thing, but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile. Stopping at reasonable is something they don’t do - EVER. EV mandates will come, and soon if they are left in power…

Where the power is down in FL, gas isn’t available either because the pumps are electric.

[Camp]

Could even siphon by hand if desperate.

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

His argument is a fail

[STODR]

State law they have generator back up.

[Optrader]

@Publius

@Optrader

@Piper

While I was doing some research on citizens and driver’s license, I ran across this “right to travel” in the United States.

As a fundamental right inherent in American citizenship and the nature of the federal union, the right to travel in the United States is basic to American liberty. The right precedes the creation of the United States and appears in the Articles of Confederation. The U.S. Constitution and Supreme Court recognize and protect the right to interstate travel. The travel right entails privacy and free domestic movement without governmental abridgement.

In the era of surveillance, the imposition of official photo identification for travel, watchlist prescreening programs, and invasive airport scans and searches unreasonably burden the right to travel. They undermine citizen rights to travel and to privacy. These regulations impermissibly require citizens to relinquish one fundamental right of privacy in order to exercise another fundamental right of travel. The government must preserve these rights in addressing policy goals. The original conception of the right to travel embodies it as a broadly-based freedom that encompasses all modes of transport. Its explicit articulation in the Articles of Confederation became implicit in the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the Constitution. Contrary to the appellate “single mode doctrine,” abridgement of any mode of transportation undermines the constitutionally enshrined travel right. The U.S. Supreme Court needs to rearticulate an originally consistent and politically robust multi-modal right to travel.

"The Right To Travel And Privacy: Intersecting Fundamental Freedoms, 30" by Richard Sobel.

Question. Could limiting our mode of travel (to electric vehicle only) encroach on our “right to travel?”

What about limiting our right to travel during a pandemic?

The push for EVs is exactly that. A means for the government to limit our ability to travel. Even without giving the government control of our travel by them shutting down the power grid, total reliance in EV travel could be shut down by natural disasters.How long has power been down in Florida after Hurricane Ian?

EVs running alongside of ICE vehicles and driven by people who choose to drive them is one thing, but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile. Stopping at reasonable is something they don’t do - EVER. EV mandates will come, and soon if they are left in power…

Where the power is down in FL, gas isn’t available either because the pumps are electric.

Quite true, but people can store gas in cans thus giving them means to travel to an area where there are gas stations.

[Optrader]

@fallenturtle

@Optrader

but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile

But replace it with 1.6km.

Thanks. I hate the metric system.

[bigtwnvin]

So by your answer a full tank of fuel has the same chance of being replenished as an EV battery?
Mmm I’ll have to disagree on that one.

[NJBob]

@Optrader

@fallenturtle

@Optrader

but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile

But replace it with 1.6km.

Thanks. I hate the metric system.

I get it, dividing by 10 is hard.

Not to worry though, the Libs are going to force it on America.

[fallenturtle]

@NJBob

@Optrader

@fallenturtle

@Optrader

but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile

But replace it with 1.6km.

Thanks. I hate the metric system.

I get it, dividing by 10 is hard.

Not to worry though, the Libs are going to force it on America.

They should have forced it on America 60 years ago.

[Samm]

@STODR

State law they have generator back up.

Yep … At least ten stations in each county.

https://www.cga.ct.gov/2011/rpt/2011-R-0389.htm

[Samm]

@NJBob

@Optrader

@fallenturtle

@Optrader

but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile

But replace it with 1.6km.

Thanks. I hate the metric system.

I get it, dividing by 10 is hard.

Not to worry though, the Libs are going to force it on America.

Technically, by an Act of Congress, the US has been on the Metric System since 1975 with the enactment of the Metric Conversion Act. And that was followed up with the Omnibus Trade and Competitiveness Act of 1988, that amended 1975 law and designates the metric system as the preferred system of weights and measures for United States trade and commerce. But in both cases, they failed to set an enforceable time frame for the conversion.

In the mean time, every do it yourselfer in America has lost or misplaced at least one 10mm wrench.

[STODR]

Actually I think that reads all have to have capabilities but cooperations with more then 10 in a county have to have to have access to one.

[Optrader]

@NJBob

@Optrader

@fallenturtle

@Optrader

but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile

But replace it with 1.6km.

Thanks. I hate the metric system.

I get it, dividing by 10 is hard.

Not to worry though, the Libs are going to force it on America.

Nah, dividing by ten is easy. Trying to figure distance in kilometers after a lifetime of thinking in miles- THATS THE HARD PART.

[Optrader]

@Samm

@NJBob

@Optrader

@fallenturtle

@Optrader

but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile

But replace it with 1.6km.

Thanks. I hate the metric system.

I get it, dividing by 10 is hard.

Not to worry though, the Libs are going to force it on America.

Technically, by an Act of Congress, the US has been on the Metric System since 1975 with the enactment of the Metric Conversion Act. And that was followed up with the Omnibus Trade and Competitiveness Act of 1988, that amended 1975 law and designates the metric system as the preferred system of weights and measures for United States trade and commerce. But in both cases, they failed to set an enforceable time frame for the conversion.

In the mean time, every do it yourselfer in America has lost or misplaced at least one 10mm wrench.

Actually the only thing missing from my socket set is the 5mm one.

I use an adjustable wrench for all the ones I have misplaced!

[Samm]

@Optrader

@NJBob

@Optrader

@fallenturtle

@Optrader

but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile

But replace it with 1.6km.

Thanks. I hate the metric system.

I get it, dividing by 10 is hard.

Not to worry though, the Libs are going to force it on America.

Nah, dividing by ten is easy. Trying to figure distance in kilometers after a lifetime of thinking in miles- THATS THE HARD PART.

Even we old guys would figure that out within six months after a hard conversion. It the calculation of equation that is difficult. Once you stop doing the conversion it becomes easy.

I got used to 750 ml bottles instead of “fifths” almost overnight. And when was the last time you saw a quart soda bottle?

[Samm]

@Optrader

@Samm

@NJBob

@Optrader

@fallenturtle

@Optrader

but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile

But replace it with 1.6km.

Thanks. I hate the metric system.

I get it, dividing by 10 is hard.

Not to worry though, the Libs are going to force it on America.

Technically, by an Act of Congress, the US has been on the Metric System since 1975 with the enactment of the Metric Conversion Act. And that was followed up with the Omnibus Trade and Competitiveness Act of 1988, that amended 1975 law and designates the metric system as the preferred system of weights and measures for United States trade and commerce. But in both cases, they failed to set an enforceable time frame for the conversion.

In the mean time, every do it yourselfer in America has lost or misplaced at least one 10mm wrench.

Actually the only thing missing from my socket set is the 5mm one.

I use an adjustable wrench for all the ones I have misplaced!

Is it metric?

[fallenturtle]

@Optrader

@NJBob

@Optrader

@fallenturtle

@Optrader

but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile

But replace it with 1.6km.

Thanks. I hate the metric system.

I get it, dividing by 10 is hard.

Not to worry though, the Libs are going to force it on America.

Nah, dividing by ten is easy. Trying to figure distance in kilometers after a lifetime of thinking in miles- THATS THE HARD PART.

And now every American generation gets to deal with that hard part instead of getting it over with within one. I still visualize in inches and feet, but I’m trying to get myself more use to working in metric since I took up 3D printing as a hobby.

[Optrader]

@fallenturtle

@Optrader

@NJBob

@Optrader

@fallenturtle

@Optrader

but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile

But replace it with 1.6km.

Thanks. I hate the metric system.

I get it, dividing by 10 is hard.

Not to worry though, the Libs are going to force it on America.

Nah, dividing by ten is easy. Trying to figure distance in kilometers after a lifetime of thinking in miles- THATS THE HARD PART.

And now every American generation gets to deal with that hard part instead of getting it over with within one. I still visualize in inches and feet, but I’m trying to get myself more use to working in metric since I took up 3D printing as a hobby.

I’m sure it has its uses and probably would be easier once you get accustomed to it, but you’ve heard the saying you can’t teach an old dog new tricks… It’s all I can do to use a fraction of the capabilities on this android phone without wanting to throw it across the room. There’s functions in this forum I had just learned in the old forum before it changed…

I don’t do change well…

[Optrader]

@Samm

@Optrader

@Samm

@NJBob

@Optrader

@fallenturtle

@Optrader

but one thing we know about Libs is that give them a millimeter, they’ll take a mile

But replace it with 1.6km.

Thanks. I hate the metric system.

I get it, dividing by 10 is hard.

Not to worry though, the Libs are going to force it on America.

Technically, by an Act of Congress, the US has been on the Metric System since 1975 with the enactment of the Metric Conversion Act. And that was followed up with the Omnibus Trade and Competitiveness Act of 1988, that amended 1975 law and designates the metric system as the preferred system of weights and measures for United States trade and commerce. But in both cases, they failed to set an enforceable time frame for the conversion.

In the mean time, every do it yourselfer in America has lost or misplaced at least one 10mm wrench.

Actually the only thing missing from my socket set is the 5mm one.

I use an adjustable wrench for all the ones I have misplaced!

Is it metric?

Dang! Now I’ll have to check and get the one I don’t have!