Keeping premiums down helps keep costs in check, right?
I mean if you are insured, the doctor gets what the insurance company pays, no more no less.
so the doctor can charge whatever he wants but only gets paid what the insurance companies pay.
Allan
They dont need them. LOL. who pays if an uninsured young person has an accident and has hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills.
Allan
The hospital still bills the uninsured young person, so what’s your point?
If that person had insurance the bills would be manageable.
The uninsured of the country pay though the nose for healthcare.
I am sure you know that though
Allan
Yeah having choices sucks for stupid people. I’d rather they still have the choice though. Liberty and all that.
auto insurance is mandatory in 49 states.
why not health insurance?
Allan
Auto insurance shouldn’t be mandatory either. Guess what, even though it’s mandatory, there are still plenty of uninsured drivers. Mostly illegals.
You don’t have a point.
Personally, I think that anyone that works for their hard earned money, should have to pay for the people that don’t work, and are lazy and want everything for free(Liberal Democrat Socialism).
I’m not just talking about Universal Liberal Healthcare either. I mean everything in Every Country. Not just America either. People with jobs in America should support everyone else on Earth for anything and everything. No matter what it is. lol!!!
LOL. Its just not liberals who benefit from handouts.
My conservative friend from Nebraska has a son who is permanently disabled, and has a tough life. He collects Social Security. its not a lot but helps with his needs. you would be handing him a tougher life than he already has.
I (an able bodied) man dont mind helping out those in need of help though no fault of their own.
Allan
So are you going to try and disprove Wiley’s point, or just sit there and say “You don’t have a point.” to him?
Yeah, uuuum, now a days within the system of benefits, there are a lot more people that take advantage of the system, then the ones that don’t.
I’m all for help, when it is truly needed, in the case of your son’s friend, but millions upon millions of dollars are wasted each year on things like social security benefits, and snap(food) benefits, because so many people take advantage of the system.
I wonder who those people probably vote for? hmm, let’s see. Well logic would say that more than likely those people vote for Democrats. Because they’re Democrat based programs.
I’m curious though, things like social security, are they in debt or no? And if they’re why didn’t Obama, and the Dems help get several of their programs that they created out of debt with the 11 trillion dollar deficient that they made for America?
Yeah but we’re not talking about people in need. We’re talking about forcing people who don’t need insurance to buy it in order to cover people who do need it but can’t afford it (supposedly). Of course if the reason they can’t afford it is because they either don’t work (by their own choice) or they already spent their disposable income on things they don’t need, I don’t think anyone else should be forced to pay for that.
It’s hard to try and talk to Democrats, when they don’t use common sense that often. lol.
I would be certain that my friend and his son will be casting their ballots for Adrian Smith (r) in Nebraska’s his wife probably. shes a little more left leaning but still will pull the R lever most likely.
They are not democratic based programs but for all Americans needing help.
The R’s are in charge of the food stamp program, they could end it with a passage of a new law.
That they dont means the law helps EVERYBODY not just dems.
Allan
of course LOL. The reason people need the subsidy is that health insurance costs a lot.
before they went uninsured. Now they have insurance.
Allan
Subsidy? You mean the one working people don’t qualify for? 
I don’t think you read what I put before. People like your sons friend, aren’t taking advantage of the system.
I’m talking about most of the people that get welfare, and food stamps, that can work, but chose not to, because they can simply get free money that way. You know, the people you don’t want to talk about, because the Democrats made these programs, and they’re EXTREMELY corrupt, and extremely bankrupt. These Democrat programs remind me of California. Run by dems, and failing horribly! Good thing Trump is president and bringing so many jobs to so many people. I wonder………how many people are off welfare and food stamps now, compared to when Obama was in there? You know, a thriving America? and people taking pride that they have a job, and earn their own way? You remember those times? lol.
It’s the opposite of Socialism, where the Dems want to control everything. lol.
working people get the subsidy if their income is low enough.
what gave you the idea that only non-working people got the subsidy?
The law (ACA) is clearly stated.
Allan
In other words, if they work minimum wage or part time. See in my world, beggars can’t be choosers. In yours, not only can they be choosers, but everyone else has to pay so that they can be. I like mine better. Sorry.
