Jezcoe
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Well the Tories have been in charge until a couple of weeks ago.
Guvnah
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Apparently thatâs the only lie someone can make. 
Jezcoe
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He is on audio saying that along with a string of racial epitaphs.
I will give PJW this⌠he was the only one at Infowars with enough sense to say that they should stop with the Sandy Hook thing.
Itâs why he never got sued over it.
Heâs a minor figure on whatâs going on he is an easy scapegoat. I donât have a dog in this fight, but itâs not hard to see a situation like this barreling out of control from decades of discontent on migration.
Regardless if youâre on the other side of the aisle on this situation, thereâs a lot of people very upset with the immigration levels that have been ignored or labeled one of the three words, racist, a populist, or far right. If I see those words, I know the conversation is over. I no longer wish to engage in conversation with the other.
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The Tories are a failure and they deserved to be beat illegal. Immigration shouldnât be partisan issue, imho.
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Jezcoe
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He literally had a rally in Trafalgar Square last week that attracted thousands before he skipped off to Cyprus.
Jezcoe
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The people who are rioting donât want any immigration.
Thatâs one of the fallacies Iâm already seeing that itâs just the âfar rightâ that is rioting right now they might be the foot soldiers but thereâs a lot of working class ordinary citizens on the streets right now as well. Iâm seeing interviews with these people, theyâre not Tommy Robinsons ilk.
While thereâs obviously that type out there as well, there seems to be a lot of ordinary people out there, thatâs just sick of it.
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Jezcoe
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I think that immigrants are a scapegoat for quite a bit of things that were caused by Brexit which oddly enough was fueled by anti immigrant sentiment.
Considering the societal anger at immigration as a whole in Europe, where itâs always been complicated, is it really that hard for someone like him to rial everyone up?
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Some of it is definitely brexit and just how poorly the British government has ran the country for twenty years.
You canât promise everyone awesome healthcare and then defund it at every possibility using every excuse and then act surprised when those same young people get angry as â â â â that they donât get the benefits their older siblings did just a few years earlier.
Then you have a bunch of power hungry sychophants telling them the reason your health care sucks compared to your older sister because of those damn Poles and damn Arabs. Not a surprise.
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Brexit has been a disaster for the UK. Now the clamour is for another referendum to go back into Europe.
We have David â â â â â â â Cameron to thank for that debacle.
Now moving onto Tommy Robinson who was mentioned in another post, that man is a racist, homophobic, piece of â â â â â â â â â I would not piss on him if he was in fire. A Horrible odious â â â â â â â â â â â â and he brings shame to Britain.
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I would love to see labour push that. They can explain why open borders is a good thing.
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Muse for a moment over how intellectually lazy and boxed in one has to be to sit and just automatically believe that every time something happens over there, itâs always (and only ever) this so-called âfar rightâ. It may hurt your brain cells a bit, but you clearly have enough to spare. 
Itâs way past fallacy. At least those can be accidental. 
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Labour wont push it, Brexit â â â â â â up the UK but its going to be at least 15-20 years before another referendum.
One of the reasons the tories lost was because people realized the pack of lies they had been sold.
And as for the Rwanda plan, that was laughable, the tories spent millions on that absolute farce.
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Guilds
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What is the answer? how do we deal with migration? Climate change certainly is a factorâŚwhere once food could be grown, now it cannotâŚso people moveâŚwhat do we do with them?
Guilds
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But how do you really feel? -')
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I donât know a lot about british politics, I do know that Brexit succeeded largely because of the EUâs open border policies. Immigration is still an issue. as much as people may claim they donât like Brexit, what they donât want more is returning to open borders.
I had to look it up to see what the rustles are all about.
Sure enough, Iâve never heard of him, and canât even vaguely remember ever seeing him before.
So at least heâs not famous. 