Promoting hate and division is all about establishing a narrative

[Samm]

@Guilds

Looks like a male? go into the mens room.
Looks like a female?..go into the women’s room.

Again, not complicated.

That’s only the tip if the iceberg. Add to that, locker rooms and group showers. Just got a little more complicated, didn’t it.

[Samm]

@H_Arendt

@Guilds

Looks like a male? go into the mens room.
Looks like a female?..go into the women’s room.

I am old enough to remember gas stations with three bathrooms. Only the CritProgs objected to that!

Really? I’m old enough to remember when they only had one … sometimes in a little wood building out back.

[Samm]

@Rodeo

@Guilds

Are you saying, a Trans woman, that has male plumbing, but lives their life as a woman, takes hormones, and dresses as a woman, should use public men’s restroom?

Just looking for clarification.

Just for clarification…

This person you are describing is not a woman. He is a man wearing women’s clothes.

They used to call them transvestites. Is that not a thing anymore?

[Samm]

@TheRedComet

@Guilds

@TheRedComet

Here’s the thing. Their lifestyle as trans people is complicated. It always has been and always will be.

They have no right to demand the rest of society placate every complicated thing about their identity.

Like if you are grossly overweight and try to join the Marine corps they are going to tell you to drop the extra weight and come back and try again. They aren’t going to completely redefine their mission goals and their training regimens to placate a super fat person’s comfort.

That’s just the way it is. Society isn’t going to throw the established bathroom cultural code upside down to placate trans people so that they feel more comfortable in the restroom.

No, it really is not that complicated. The RW has nothing to run on (except cutting taxes) so they have created a moral panic, over something they are just not comfortable with…

Comparing a trans person, to someone who is overweight, is ridiculous.

And yes, the fabric of society will break down if the “established bathroom cultural code” is tarnished.
/sarcasm off

Looks like a male? go into the mens room.
Looks like a female?..go into the women’s room.

Again, not complicated.

I’m perfectly comfortable with trans people. The person who sells me my pack of cigarettes every day is FTM trans that I highly respect because he (his preferred pronoun) is a very respectful person who treats me well. I don’t have a problem with them or the life style. Never have. I’m a live and let live kind of person.

In a perfect world that solution would work. But it’s not a perfect world. Sad truth is that most trans people, especially MTF trans, are obviously trans. They don’t “pass” if you catch my drift. And that can make cis women extremely uncomfortable if they walk into the women’s bathroom. Do they not have a right to say who can and cannot come into their restroom in terms of gender identity?

Also I never said the fabric of society would break down in regards to public restrooms. That’s hyperbole. I said “why should society throw the established bathroom etiquette upside down?”

Yep … and this bears repeating, because it so aptly portrays what you are saying.

[Samm]

@conan

@H_Arendt

The medical profession disagrees with you

Oh science again. Science says they’re males and females and that’s it.

Not entirely. There are individuals, usually, but not exclusively, males, who are born with XXY chromosomes. But that is a rare genetic malformation that has nothing to do with the mental dysphoria that is getting all the attention of late. Transgenderism is a trendy mental illness, not biology.

[Guilds]

@conan

The guy that was pretending to be adolescence teenage girls is a mental disturbed freak

Not “whatever”. Some straight men, like to dress in women’s clothes. Not trans, not gay…just a fetish.

Who are you talking about that was pretending to be adolescence teenage girl?

[Samm]

@conan

@H_Arendt

My moral high ground is no higher than yours,

But yet you demand we comply to your morals.

Yep … “In your face Con!”

[Samm]

@H_Arendt

@WuWei

One side does lose. Always.

Use your imagination friend. You’re being hemmed in by your notion that there can only be a winner.

Then why are you fighting so hard?

[Samm]

@Eagle-Keeper

@Samm

@biggestal99

@zantax

Gibberish, made up in the fever dreams of a few perverted social scientists

lol. you disagree with people therefore it is gibberish?

lots of people disagree with your view of things not only social scientists.

Social scientists do not trump biology scientists. In fact, it’s not even appropriate to call them scientists, because nothing they conclude is produced using the scientific method.

Stay in your lane Allan, you are obviously anti science.

I’ve been hoping to promote a scientific discussion here:

Here's a question for those on the Left. At what point are you convinced that a biological male/female is the opposite gender?

So far no takers.

That’s because there is no science to support their position … and they know it.

[Samm]

@Guilds

@conan

The guy that was pretending to be adolescence teenage girls is a mental disturbed freak

Not “whatever”. Some straight men, like to dress in women’s clothes. Not trans, not gay…just a fetish.

Are they allowed to use the women’s locker room and showers?

How would you know the difference?

[TheRedComet]

Probably. That is an expensive thing to do for retrofitting existing businesses.

In new construction it wouldn’t cost nearly as much. You lose some capacity but it can be accounted for in the design.

It should never be mandated. But I think business owners planning on designing new buildings should look into it. People generally prefer them over multi occupant.

[TheRedComet]

Japan used to call them New Halves.

Hell they probably still do. The Japanese are the least PC people on this planet.

I like what they called them in Policenauts (it’s an old adventure mystery game released only in Japan; there is an English fan translation for the Saturn now which is how I played it). Biovestites.

Boy that would ruffle some feathers.

[TheRedComet]

I’ve never met a straight cross dresser.

Every one I ever knew, including a former coworker (he transferred for a promotion) were either bisexual or completely gay. He was bisexual but was more attracted to men.

Really cool dude actually. Hilarious and did all of his own automobile maintenance and repair. Also very knowledgeable about the parts industry. He had the highest retail sales in our store; I only outpaced him because I’m the commercial sales manager. But he built up a clientele. Even the real rednecks (the ones you would assume hate LGBT people) loved him.

[TheRedComet]

She passes well. But what does her voice sound like?

That’s what I always go by. It’s the voice that is always the giveaway. Even with vocal surgery you can still tell they were originally men.

Notice that I am respecting her pronouns. I’m a pretty reasonable person about these things.

[Guilds]

@TheRedComet

I’ve never met a straight cross dresser.

A good friend of my Wife’s was dating a guy, who was also a cop.

He had women’s clothes in his closet., and she asked about that…and he said they were his ex-wifes, which she believed, until they day she came home and he was wearing them.

They did not stay together.

Here is more info:

Cross-dressing

[biggestal99]

@Samm

Social scientists do not trump biology scientists. In fact, it’s not even appropriate to call them scientists, because nothing they conclude is produced using the scientific method.

Stay in your lane Allan, you are obviously anti science.

i do not dispute sex (biological science) only gender (social science)

you think sex and gender are the same.

i do not.

simple disagreement.

Allan

[biggestal99]

@TheRedComet

I’ve never met a straight cross dresser

never met rudolph guiliani huh?

Allan

[Happyhappyjoyjoy]

Long Lost Footage Shows Rudy Giuliani Dressed In Drag with Donald Trump

I’m not one to judge…

[biggestal99]

@Rodeo

You write the one post and then respond in the next post…

How many people use your account Allan?

posting style.

address he issue please.

Allan

[biggestal99]

cross dressing by straights has a long history.

Allan