The really funny thing is DOGE is looking at the wrong database when they make that absurd claim. Basically, there is one database that has the name of every person who has ever had a SSN. On some of those files, there is no “date of death” listed due to bad records, stuff not being reported right, etc. Then there is another database which lists only those people who have been eligible for SS benefits. DOGE is looking in the first database to make the absurd claim that there are 125 year olds being paid.
Look up Dr. Ed Weir - he use to run the Philadelphia office of the SSA. He has videos out there explaining the whole thing. SSA has been begging to just put filler dates on those names where they don’t have accurate records, but Congress won’t authorize it. Both sides want to use that file to make this absurd claim.
Some MAGAs (even in this thread) will continue to believe the BS that people who died 50 years ago are still receiving benefits checks. No critical thinking; not a single drop.
Yeah I missed that.
He focused on the 12.4 million names over 120 years old in the database. Well no ■■■■■ everybody is in that database. It’s just these that don’t have death dates recorded. And then he quipped “and in some cases somebody’s getting payments”. As if he knows - coming from the guy who finds it astounding that all these names are in a database file (as they should be).
Neither he nor you know anything about large-scale computing systems. I spent my whole career managing several.
I’ll take it all back if anyone can provide just one single example of someone over 120 years old getting SS payments. Just one.
The $6000 tax deduction for Seniors (which is waaay more than what I pay in taxes on my SS income) is already in the law, thanks to the Big Beautiful Bill … and thanks to Trump.
An illegal could wave their check (well, bank statement since they DD) in their face and libs still wouldn’t believe they can get benefits.
Q: How do they claim benefits if the law prohibits illegals from collecting?
A: There are several ways it happens. One has to do with the type of SSN that was used for employment. The 2004 law requires work authorization in order to claim Social Security. But the law pertains only to individuals who received their SSN after January 1, 2004. If the individual was issued an SSN prior to January 1, 2004, like the 7 million non-work SSNs issued prior to 2003, the 2004 law prohibiting payment of Social Security does not apply. According to the Congressional Research Service and the Government Accountability Office, that group does not need to have ever received legal work authorization in order to claim benefits — they may have worked illegally their entire careers.
As long as all other qualifications are met, and they have evidence of their earnings, like W2s, they may file a claim for Social Security benefits. Others who receive an SSN after 2004 must have work authorization to claim benefits. Yet even people who worked illegally for many years sometimes later change status. That can occur even without an amnesty, especially if the illegals have children who were born in this country. Because the children are born as U.S. citizens, when they become adults they can sponsor their parents to stay in the U.S. legally and to receive work authorization. If their parents kept W2s and evidence earnings, those work credits will be re-instated to their new SSNs. Once they receive work authorization, noncitizens can later file a claim for Social Security benefits.
Currently the SSA uses all earnings to determine entitlement to benefits, including the earnings for jobs worked illegally. The majority of seniors responding to TSCL surveys on the topic believe that noncitizens should not be allowed to receive Social Security based on illegal work. TSCL agrees. Social Security benefits are determined on earnings and work history, regardless of whether taxes were paid or not. Because those earnings are held by Social Security in an Earnings Suspense file, non-citizens could at some point gain access to benefits based on illegal earnings. TSCL strongly supports legislation that would ban the payment of Social Security based on unauthorized work.
Social Security has been at risk of collapse several times in the past 50 years. But increasing the payroll tax (several times) and raising the retirement age (once) kept it going. Either or both of those actions could be taken again.
Over my life, the cap has been raised several times, as has the rate of payroll tax, plus the full benefit age was raised from 65 to 67. There is nothing preventing Congress from doing any or all of those things again.