President openly supported violent insurrectionists in recent speech

It is if the House says it is.

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“Democracy is on the ballot. Your freedom is on the ballot," Mr. Biden said.

And then Democrats call for removing his opponent from the ballot. The logic of Dork Biden.

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Biden praised George Washington and his troops who were fighting as part of an armed insurrection. That is clearly pro-insurrectionist.

He then said, “You can’t be pro-insurrectionist and pro-American.”

Clearly Biden can’t be pro-American by his own measure.

So you do want a revolution based on terrible analogies. Fascinating.

Was Jan 6 an attack against the possibility of king George?

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Debatable

I don’t think it was

I think some people there thought it was a revolution. They said so. I don’t think they represented anybody but themselves when they said it.

As it has turned out, they may have been correct.

How much of this do you think goes back to the Collusion Delusion?

These Maga voice who know the truth but have abandon democracy, they made their choice…now rest of us have to make our choice.

Clearly a call to arms, and a sign that they will not give up there power. How can they? To give up power they cave into anti-American, anti-democracy etc.

No…they’re not going quietly into the night if and when they lose in Nov. You will see a real insurrection as general Biden will lead his troops to save democracy.

I don’t think so. Not after what they’ve done to them after the last one.

Of course a part of it does. But primarily because it’s an attack on their leader

This is just window licking stupid.

Which started with the Collusion Delusion. That’s where I believe the belief in “cheating” starts. And because that happened, now everything is cheating.

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The last 3 words are true.

I agree that there were over-the-top behaviors on that day. Anyone who denies that is lying.

Where you and I might disagree, @Jezcoe , is that IMO the over-the-top behaviors that day did not constitute an insurrection. Some of it was a riot, no question. Trespassing. Vandalism. Bluster.

I would say (and have said previously) that the shooting of Ashley Babbitt was legitimate. The group of people she was with were breaking and entering. Just as I would want the liberty, the right to self defense, to shoot into a crowd tying to bust down my front door, she was part of an out-of-control crowd breaking down a door in the capitol. She happened to be the one that got hit.

But not an insurrection. Not a single person charged and tried over their participation in the rioting was charged or convicted of insurrection. Not a single court case has been raised to charge or claim that this was an insurrection. Claims of insurrection are just fever dreams, until and unless actual court cases determine it to be.

Your challenge to Bill is legitimate. Bill has a huge history of selective focus (and enhancement of his focus), as witnessed in the threads about Ukraine and Gaza. It’s no different here. I’ll challenge you to consider whether you have selective focus and enhancement in your view of insurrection. Totally rhetorical challenge, of course. I really am not interested in your defense of your focus.

I disagree…they feel they have upper hand.

The riot wasn’t the attempt to overturn the election. That was the end product of Trump working with his allies in Congress to use the Fake Elector Scheme to use Parliamentary ■■■■■■■ to hand the Presidency to Trump when they knew that he had lost… that was the insurrection.

MAGA? After the sentences being handed out? That’s the whole purpose of the abusive sentencing.

They scared the hell out of the ruling class on Jan 6th.

That can’t happen again.

Progress!

Not talking about Trump losing…I’m talking about Biden/democrats losing.

Ah… now that would be interesting. Especially considering they got away with the Summer of Love.