President openly supported violent insurrectionists in recent speech

In the winter of 1777, it was harsh and cold as the Continental Army marched to Valley Forge. General George Washington knew he faced the most daunting of tasks, to fight and win a war against the most powerful empire in existence in the world at the time. His mission was clear: liberty, not conquest. Freedom. Not domination. National independence. Not individual glory.
Transcript: Biden's first campaign speech of the 2024 election year | AP News

Those were the comments from President Biden’s recent campaign speech.

General Washington and his troops were all British subjects and could have been hanged for treason if their deadly insurrection had failed.

Is it time for impeachment articles and removal from state ballots?

Giving a political speech, in and of itself, isn’t an impeachable event. As for ballot removal, stupid is as stupid does. In a democratically elected system of government the voters make the choice. Anyone trying to manufacture the disqualification, and removal, of a candidate is sowing the wind and will reap the whirlwind.

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A beautiful speech. Democracy will be on the ballot in 2024…unless we can get it removed off the ballot first.

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The issue is deeper than that.

I remember seeing a quote from one of the J6 judges who said “insurrection is never justified”. The problem is that the US would not exist as a nation without a successful violent insurrection. The constitution still in use today was written by the insurrectionists.

If “insurrection is never justified”, then the US government should disband, and the states should return to British rule.

The left fielder is going back, back, he’s
on the warning track…

Biden’s speechwriter did not see the irony in these words:

You can’t be pro-insurrectionist and pro-American.

You can’t support General Washington and the soldiers at Valley Forge with without being “pro-insurrectionist”.

So it was a revolution? Jan 6 was an attempt at a revolution?

J6 was certainly nothing like an insurrection.

It was about exercising freedom of speech, the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances as explicitly protected under the US constitution.

The over-the-top response of the federal government since J6 protests are a lot closer to those of the British government to protests in the colonies in the years before the American Revolution.

As far as revolution, revolutions need not be violent. The US is certainly in dire need of a revolution to restore constitutional government “of the people, by the people, for the people” as Lincoln stated. Hopefully that will occur through peaceful means.

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More than that happened. You are leaving out some crucial details.

Well the key point that you seem to be missing is that you have to win your insurrection. The shmucks from January 6 are losers, in every sense of the word.

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Then the entirety of your thread fails. You are the comparing it to a revolution……

Biden clearly supported General Washington and the other insurrectionists at Valley Forge.

Then he said, “You can’t be pro-insurrectionist and pro-American.”

By his own logic he is anti-American.

Well, no. His support of Washington would make him pro-American, anti-British.

The American Revolution was a successful insurrection. It was an armed rebellion against the government of the British Empire.

The collapse of Communism in eastern Europe was largely the result of nonviolent revolutions. Insurrection is an armed rebellion, so these were not insurrections.

Attempts by the UK’s unelected House of Lords to block laws that the elected House of Commons resulted in the Parliament Act of 1911 that gutted the power of the House of Lords. That was arguably a peaceful revolution as well.

No he is anti government.

You are talking out of two sides of your mouth. If it was a revolution then it was an insurrection then Biden is right

If it was exercise of free speech by taking a tour of the Capitol then washington has nothing to do with it

George Washington was an insurrectionist.

Americans may not be used to hearing that, but it is certainly true.

What is the relationship between Jan 6 and the American revolution

And if there isn’t one, why are you trying to relate the discussion of Jan 6 to revolutionary rhetoric.

So who is like washington in this discussion?

Of course he was but, it’s only in the upside-down where supporting Washington makes you anti-American.

Before the war, Washington supported peaceful efforts to resolve the dispute between London and the colonies.

The British government responded with harsh measures to punish Americans and suppress protests.

If there is a historical analogy, Americans are where the colonists were before the start of the American Revolution. Biden is playing the part of King George as the figurehead on an oppressive, distant government.