Post enumeration surveys reveal a devastating level of failure in the 2020 Census

SixFoot · 2022-08-19T13:00:20.849Z

Tguns:

So…our government can’t count, that’s reassuring.

“1 little piggy, 2 little piggies, 375,415,808 little…wait where was I. Screw it, they’ll fix it next decade”

They sure can count to 87,000 new IRS agents though.

zantax · 2022-08-19T13:06:15.791Z

SixFoot:

Tguns:

So…our government can’t count, that’s reassuring.

“1 little piggy, 2 little piggies, 375,415,808 little…wait where was I. Screw it, they’ll fix it next decade”

They sure can count to 87,000 new IRS agents though.

Have you seen their armed agent training videos? Keystone cops level.

SixFoot · 2022-08-19T13:07:22.391Z

zantax:

SixFoot:

Tguns:

So…our government can’t count, that’s reassuring.

“1 little piggy, 2 little piggies, 375,415,808 little…wait where was I. Screw it, they’ll fix it next decade”

They sure can count to 87,000 new IRS agents though.

Have you seen their armed agent training videos? Keystone cops level.

Their boots even come with extra Kiwi.

DougBH · 2022-08-19T13:26:59.203Z

Except for the Senate, it looks like Democrats got their extra state after all, only it is a virtual state with real congressional representation.

Tguns · 2022-08-19T14:35:05.081Z

SixFoot:

They sure can count to 87,000 new IRS agents though.

They’ll end up hiring 870 agents, but paying the salary of 870,000 agents.

johnwk2 · 2022-08-19T14:56:07.270Z

Safiel:

Not only does this distort the House of Representatives and the Electoral College, it will ensure that many billions of dollars are misdirected away from certain States and to other States in a wrong manner.

My goodness Safiel, you are worried about "billions of dollars are misdirected away from certain States and to other States in a wrong manner " when the very purpose of having the census was to determine each state’s number of representatives, and, each state’s fair share of a total sum being collected by a direct tax to meet federal exigencies . The two formulas being:

States’ population
---------------------------- X SUM TO BE RAISED = STATE’S FAIR SHARE
Total U.S. Population

And . . .

State`s Pop.

------------------- X House size (435) = State`s No. of Representatives
U.S. Pop.

Tell me, Safiel, why are you so concerning about a fair apportionment of each state’s number representatives, but not concerned in the least that each state pays its fair apportioned share when it comes to taxation?

JWK

“The apportionment of representation and taxation by the same scale is just; it removes the objection, that, while Virginia paid one sixth part of the expenses of the Union, she had no more weight in public counsels than Delaware, which paid but a very small portion” 3 Elliot’s 41

Guvnah · 2022-08-19T14:56:35.212Z

Smyrna:

and Rs…are dufuses.

I think the plural of dufus should be dufi.

Impenitent · 2022-08-19T15:25:20.420Z

Guvnah:

Smyrna:

and Rs…are dufuses.

I think the plural of dufus should be dufi.

to say nothing of the senator from California

Jezcoe · 2022-08-19T15:47:23.315Z

Smyrna:

All but one of the states overcounted is a blue state, and all but one of the undercounted states is red.

I’m shocked I tell you…just shocked!

This is the perfect example, clearly displaying, just how ■■■■■■■ corrupt things actually are and Rs…are dufuses. Are there any deniers left? Do you think this is an accident?

Now…ask me if I’d vote for Trump again?

Trump was in charge of the Census.

Sknyluv · 2022-08-19T15:52:24.946Z

WuWei:

The hysteria had far more impact than we realize.

True. It’s easy enough to subtract the 1 million people who died from COVID. That kind of counting is easy.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-08-19T16:05:46.507Z

Jezcoe:

Smyrna:

All but one of the states overcounted is a blue state, and all but one of the undercounted states is red.

I’m shocked I tell you…just shocked!

This is the perfect example, clearly displaying, just how ■■■■■■■ corrupt things actually are and Rs…are dufuses. Are there any deniers left? Do you think this is an accident?

Now…ask me if I’d vote for Trump again?

Trump was in charge of the Census.

And they bungled it.

This is what happens when you elect people who have no interest in governing.

However, it is also fair to place some blame on Covid.

WuWei · 2022-08-19T16:47:40.361Z

Sknyluv:

WuWei:

The hysteria had far more impact than we realize.

True. It’s easy enough to subtract the 1 million people who died from COVID. That kind of counting is easy.

gus living

johnwk2 · 2022-08-19T17:16:48.616Z

Jezcoe:

Trump was in charge of the Census.

My goodness. Do you really have to infect a productive discussion with your Trump Derangement Syndrome ?

You dudes really need to give it a frickin break!

Jezcoe · 2022-08-19T17:19:32.775Z

johnwk2:

Jezcoe:

Trump was in charge of the Census.

My goodness. Do you really have to infect a productive discussion with your Trump Derangement Syndrome ?

You dudes really need to give it a frickin break!

It was in response to exclamations as to how the problems with the census shows the corruption and how it makes one want to vote for Trump again.

So… informing the person that the 2020 census was the responsibility of Trump seemed like rational response to that.

WuWei · 2022-08-19T17:23:46.244Z

Trump planned for blue states to be overcounted. Eleventy dimensional chess or something.

Or maybe just a coincidence.

Remember how they whined about Trump and the census?

Bonkers. Wild.

WuWei · 2022-08-19T17:24:17.224Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

However , it is also fair to place some blame on Covid.

But not in the context of the election?

johnwk2 · 2022-08-19T17:33:15.395Z

Jezcoe:

johnwk2:

Jezcoe:

Trump was in charge of the Census.

My goodness. Do you really have to infect a productive discussion with your Trump Derangement Syndrome ?

You dudes really need to give it a frickin break!

It was in response to exclamations as to how the problems with the census shows the corruption and how it makes one want to vote for Trump again.

So… informing the person that the 2020 census was the responsibility of Trump seemed like rational response to that.

And what about the real corruption as to why a census was put into our Constitution as explained HERE? Is that not more important than who is in charge of the taking of the census?

Jezcoe · 2022-08-19T17:38:03.146Z

johnwk2:

Jezcoe:

johnwk2:

Jezcoe:

Trump was in charge of the Census.

My goodness. Do you really have to infect a productive discussion with your Trump Derangement Syndrome ?

You dudes really need to give it a frickin break!

It was in response to exclamations as to how the problems with the census shows the corruption and how it makes one want to vote for Trump again.

So… informing the person that the 2020 census was the responsibility of Trump seemed like rational response to that.

And what about the real corruption as to why a census was put into our Constitution as explained HERE? Is that not more important than who is in charge of the taking of the census?

Your weird ideas about taxation has nothing to do with the incompetent way the 2020 Census was handled.

johnwk2 · 2022-08-19T18:37:29.261Z

Jezcoe:

johnwk2:

Jezcoe:

johnwk2:

Jezcoe:

Trump was in charge of the Census.

My goodness. Do you really have to infect a productive discussion with your Trump Derangement Syndrome ?

You dudes really need to give it a frickin break!

It was in response to exclamations as to how the problems with the census shows the corruption and how it makes one want to vote for Trump again.

So… informing the person that the 2020 census was the responsibility of Trump seemed like rational response to that.

And what about the real corruption as to why a census was put into our Constitution as explained HERE? Is that not more important than who is in charge of the taking of the census?

Your weird ideas about taxation has nothing to do with the incompetent way the 2020 Census was handled.

My “…weird ideas about taxation…”?

The very reason for a required census being put into our Constitution is : (a) to determine each state’s number of allotted representatives, and (b) to determine each State’s share of any direct tax laid by Congress.

Now, in regard to taxation, let us review some of our Founder’s thinking regarding the grant of power to lay and collect an apportioned direct tax among the states, and whether or not their thinking is “weird”…

Pinckney addressing the S.C. ratification convention states the following with the tax in question:

“With regard to the general government imposing internal taxes upon us, he contended that it was absolutely necessary they should have such a power: requisitions had been in vain tried every year since the ratification of the old Confederation, and not a single state had paid the quota required of her. The general government could not abuse this power, and favor one state and oppress another, as each state was to be taxed only in proportion to its representation.” 4 Elliot‘s, S.C., 305-6

And then there is this:

“The proportion of taxes are fixed by the number of inhabitants, and not regulated by the extent of the territory, or fertility of soil” 3 Elliot’s, 243, “Each state will know, from its population, its proportion of any general tax” ___ 3 Elliot’s, 244 ___ Mr. George Nicholas, during the ratification debates of our Constitution.

And then, Mr. Madison goes on to remark about Congress’s “general power of taxation” that, "they will be limited to fix the proportion of each State, and they must raise it in the most convenient and satisfactory manner to the public."3 Elliot, 255

And if there is any uncertainty about the rule requiring any direct tax to be apportioned, and thus ensure the people of each state are taxed proportionately equal to their representation in Congress when a direct tax is laid, Mr. PENDLETON says:

“The apportionment of representation and taxation by the same scale is just; it removes the objection, that, while Virginia paid one sixth part of the expenses of the Union, she had no more weight in public counsels than Delaware, which paid but a very small portion” 3 Elliot’s 41

So, according to our Founders, the rule of apportionment boils down to a fundamental rule which may be expressed as follows: Representation with a proportional financial obligation when any direct tax is laid among the States.

And here are the two formulas regarding apportionment:

States’ population
---------------------------- X SUM TO BE RAISED = STATE’S FAIR SHARE
Total U.S. Population

And . . .

State`s Pop.

------------------- X House size (435) = State`s No. of Representatives
U.S. Pop.
.

Now, Jezcoe, what is so “weird” about apportioning both representatives and any direct tax laid among the States?

JWK

If, by calling a tax indirect when it is essentially direct, the rule of protection [apportionment] could be frittered away, one of the great landmarks defining the boundary between the nation and the states of which it is composed, would have disappeared, and with it one of the bulwarks of private rights and private property. POLLOCK v. FARMERS’ LOAN & TRUST CO., 157 U.S. 429 (1895) JUSTICE FULLER

STODR · 2022-08-19T18:37:45.893Z

Jezcoe:

johnwk2:

Jezcoe:

Trump was in charge of the Census.

My goodness. Do you really have to infect a productive discussion with your Trump Derangement Syndrome ?

You dudes really need to give it a frickin break!

It was in response to exclamations as to how the problems with the census shows the corruption and how it makes one want to vote for Trump again.

So… informing the person that the 2020 census was the responsibility of Trump seemed like rational response to that.

I can see the impeachment papers now if Trump would have tried to personally got involved in the census. Maybe he could have fired everyone and hired his own people.

You pulled up your skirt and showed off your TDS undies again.