I can only speak for me and I’ve been pretty outspoken…
I don’t hate the Democrat party. I hate what the Democrat party has become. I forget exactly what he said but that fool Walz was talking about restricting the first amendment…
We saw it in this forum…I remember one if this forum’s libs lecturing me about questioning crime statistics…then we found out the crime stats were wrong. Government told us the economy was fine crime was down the border was secure and our lived experience told us government was full of ■■■■■
Trumpeter a coalition of multiple ethnicities he even did great with young voters…maybe they would like to buy a house someday.
I’m not sure what I expected when I started the thread but I guess I thought a few lefties would be honest enough to admit that their leadership has fallen completely out of touch with what matters to the American people.
I personally said before the election that a decisive defeat might be the best thing that could happen to that party…that they might have to look inside at how far from reality they have drifted, that the current Democrat party has lost touch with America.
Apparently this forums democrat’s don’t see it that way.
Well said. As a lifelong Republican I suppose I should root for the Dems to just keep on keeping on with all the nonsense that just lost them this election.
I really don’t think the democrats have a future as much more than a kook fringe party with strongholds in places that are losing population like California and New York if they stay on this path.
If Trump had lost can you imagine how many threads and posts like this one we’d be seeing today?
The dems need to rebuild with new leadership. They also need to go back to basics and completely rebrand themselves with a much bigger focus on the economy.
I have no problem that they will still support LGTBQIA+ rights but the dems have allowed themselves to be perceived that that is their primary concern. Rightly or wrongly that is a perception and it needs to change.
They need to find out from the American people in all states and all demographics what does the democratic brand mean to them and from there they can start to form a strategy to rebuild.
Hard questions need to be asked and the answers no matter how unpleasant should not be dismissed.
Take the narrative back from the more extreme sections of the party but that needs strong leadership that projects a single vision and message. When those more extreme parts of the party start to get oxygen, deprive them of it and make sure the public knows they are the outliers and not the norm.
As we saw in this election voters will vote on whether or not they have more or less money in their pocket compared to 4 years ago. Democrats have lost their way when it comes to addressing economic issues. Rightly or wrongly the electorate will always blame the current party if they are being hit financially.
Stop believing that Republicans care about family values. Trying to shame them with how horrible Trump is/was obviously did not work. They just don’t care. Next time, whomever the candidate is… never focus on the person… focus on the policies (or lack there of)
Yes, slow down a bit on the hyper progressive stuff. Most of the country obviously doesn’t want it. It scares them. Some of it doesn’t make sense to them. Data doesn’t work. The only thing that might work is when they feel the pain of Trumps policies. We have record low unemployment, record high stock market, wage growth, record high oil production. Let’s see what tariffs and mass deportations do.
You guys are talking like you’re trying to convince yourselves that we’ve entered some new political era. Keep a unified government past one midterm before getting that high on your own supply of propaganda.
I do think something needs to change but I can also see why some may think nothing needs to change.
On the economy… we have record low unemployment. Record high stock market. Wage growth. Fastest inflation recovery. Low crime.
But to know that, one must be interested and trust data. Trump supporters for the most part did not. So they believed Trump.
What more could Dems have done on the economy? A global pandemic messed a lot up for the globe. Not even Trump winning in 2020 would have changed that.
On immigration… this to me is the issue that killed Biden/Harris. There is no way around it. They were unbelievably slow to act. Proposing a border bill was good just too late. And they get no credit for trying.
I think they went a little too far. But not that far. The fringe left HAS NO GOVERNMENT POWER. Yes they are very active on TikTok and YouTube but most of those beliefs do not seep into policy decisions.
The fringe right… they do have power. They will be members of Trumps cabinet. They are in Congress in bigger than expected numbers. But most people don’t see it yet because Biden was president.
Now they will get a chance to see it. I’d bet a lot of money most won’t like it.
I agree on unity to some extent. But it falls on def ears when Trump is in office. He is absolutely the least unifying figure I’ve ever seen. And he knows it. He doesn’t even try to hide it.
That is a quality that a lot of his supporters like the ■■■■■ your feelings” supporters.
Vivek would genuinely try to unify
Haley would
Not sure about Desaintis
Trump absolutely won’t. You know it and I know it.
I highly recommend Bari Weiss and the Free Press. This post is going to get a little long but…they have a piece titled “ No, the Problem Isn’t the Voters”…
It starts this way…” Ever since Donald J. Trump arrived on the political scene in 2015, elites have claimed his rise signals the last gasp of a dying white-majority America alarmed by cultural and demographic shifts. This was always a kind of security blanket—an excuse to ignore uncomfortable truths.
If Tuesday’s election results do not demolish that cope once and for all, we’re not sure what will. Because look at the results: Trump made big gains among almost every demographic group: Latinos (45 percent went for Trump—a history-making number for a Republican presidential candidate), African Americans (13 percent voted Trump compared to 8 percent in 2020), Asians (39 percent), women (46 percent), the young (46 percent).
The only group Kamala Harris made gains with was white college-educated women and those over 65. ”
After citing multiple examples from the leftwing media blaming the voters for the election results Tuesday…they go on to say this.
“ And our media elite have put their heads in the sand. Again. They seem to think that if they keep calling Americans knuckle-dragging bigots, one day they’ll get the message.
That’s why you’ll get more insight from our nine-year-old election-night livestream star Josie Savodnik than from some of the best-paid cable hosts on TV. Josie’s take on why Kamala lost? “Maybe because of the border. Maybe it’s because of Kamala’s personality. And she also did kind of a terrible job at being vice president.”
She’s not wrong.”
Congressman Dean Phillips who briefly ran for president appeared on Fox this morning…he talked about Biden but also talked about changes democrats need to make. Here’s the link, standard youtube warnings etc…. MSN
