Post Capitalist US

3 hours of rednecks wandering around the lobby got you spooked that bad?

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Longer, actually, but it only truly actualized itself post 9/11.

Neo-Feudalism…only without the feudal lords even doing the duties that were required of them under the feudal system.

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Please go on, this is interesting.

No. It’s the millions who STILL support that man.

So you think they’ll create a fascist state. Got it. Can they stand up to the military?

No, the military would have to go along with it. Do you think his support in the military is better than 50%?

I don’t know.

The military, or 50% of it, is going to help the rednecks establish a fascist state the next time a republican is elected. Got it.

What about their actions on Jan 6th was fascist?

Got any idea who in the military would lead this putsch?

No, not just any Republican or Democrat, either trump or somebody like him (regardless of party) that is bent on destroying the electoral system in order to keep power. We’ve seen it almost happen and millions are still OK with it. The disregard for democratic elections is the first overt sign of fascism.

Well, I didn’t say anything about Democrats. Do you think it’s even possible for a democrat to establish a fascist state?

Let’s take Trump out of the equation for a minute. We’ll say he’s locked up in NY like I was promised.

Who do you think could do it on the republican side?

Did we see it almost happen? The first overt sign of fascism? Where do you get that? It’s not in any of my manuals.

What would the US economy look like in this post capitalist era?

Post-capitalism?

It isn’t.

But, in the context of the material world and human relations, there’s no one ‘post-capitalist’ future.

Given what we are and the fact that the world, human and non-human, has just surrendered itself to hypercapitalism, there’s a kind of path-dependence at work.

So, probabilities figured, we’re likely in for niche collapse, localization and fascist reaction.

Strictly speaking of the US.

While you’re here, are we in a postmodernist phase and do the two have anything to do with each other?

I don’t understand.

It isn’t what?

They would have done it in a heartbeat.

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I don’t know who right now. I never thought I would see a President overtly try to overturn a lawful election and have this much support either. It has scared the bejeesus out of me. The door is open a crack and it’s only a matter of time before somebody more competent about it shows up. It’s already been proven that almost half the country will go for it.

I’m saying fascism because of the ultranationalism and corporations will still exist but not a free market, call it what you will, it will certainly be post free market capitalism.

The Democrats are capable of coming up with somebody just as dangerous now that we know all it takes is somebody with enough charisma to simply declare our elections are fraudulent and their cult will follow them.

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World’s relations are commodified and capitalized. Not everywhere, not evenly, but enough to be the rule.

Those are material conditions. There’s no arguing with it or pretending we can produce a future from different conditions.

Capitalism is growth. Metastatically so. It respects no traditions, cultures, faiths, boundaries, distinctions, isolations or presumptions.

People live where they live, even ‘connected’ people with cosmopolitan tastes and accents.

Commodofication doesn’t ‘care’. It is an algorithm: expand, commodify - or die.

Reactions to capitalist growth and penetration, to its all-encompassing commodification of all relations, will happen in the very localized traditions, creeds, identities and cultures that capitalism threatens because actual capitalism threatens everything but itself, which is commodification. So, people will react where they are threatened, which is where they are weakest. Right now, that is all the kinds of identity, because we are in the hypercapitalist phase where identity has become an exchange-commodity, which is to say, no longer personal, subjective, solitary.

People will react where they are weakest, and the capitalist reaction to resistance is always - strong. It has to be, or by virtue of resisting the universalist compulsion of commodity growth, the local can actually defeat capitalist relations. Since industrialization, the strong reaction of the overclass, which is capitalist, has been to take a routinely uniform set of militarizations best recognized as fascist.

There is no post-capitalism. We are too far into the trajectory.

There is only boom/bust, consumption, and niche collapse.

‘Post-modernism’ as a term has as much value as ‘self-esteem’ or ‘erotica’, which is none at all, because it’s a signifier of opposition, not a semantic position.

If we’re being parsimonious, and referring to the actual and very limited Continental school of critique, associated with Lacan, Baudrillard and Foucault, it would be safe to say that they are not relevant to the American experience.

American ‘post-truth’ is utterly home grown, and owes its persistence and spread to the Revival-Carnival dynamic of American evangelical rejection of capitalist modernity.