Pelosi Makes Who Is Charge Perfectly Clear

[JayJay]

@DOLOOP

@NuffSaid

Trump is in a position he unfamiliar with.

If he’s smart, and has the right folks chirping in his ear, he’d extend an olive branch to Pelosi and ask for some discussion time where they can talk about what is the best practice going forward that makes both sides happy.

If he thinks he can strong arm his way into “winning” on the wall, the government shutdown, and just everyday politics, he is not going to enjoy his time remaining in office.

Trump has a massive character defect that explains why he is a manifestly crappy negotiator. In his view, he only wins if the other side loses in any negotiation. That occassionally worked for him in the real estate world, but it doesn’t bear long term success.

He simply cannot retrain his brain to think that both sides can win.

The next two years will be hell for him.

I don’t know everything about his negotiating history or character, but even if he was the type of negotiator who believed both sides can win, he won’t do it because his core support are most talk media listeners who for thirty years have been fed a steady diet of “compromise is surrender” and “libz are EEEEEVHUL!!!”

So even if he wanted to compromise…he can’t.

[H_Arendt]

@blueapplepaste

Fair point. I do think it was notable that a number of Dem candidates said they wouldn’t support her for Speaker. Whether that was bc they thought she was a liability and that was a way to hedge against that or they genuinely didn’t support her, who knows?

The opposition to Pelosi contained two distinct strands of thinking which is probably why it never coalesced around an actual opposition candidate. One was the younger more progressive representatives who saw Pelosi as a compromised old guard figure. The other was candidates trying to win in districts that lean more conservative where the Democratic candidate was worrying about the intense anti-Pelosi advertising from the national Republican Party.

The Conservative media put a good deal of effort into stoking real or perceived divisions in the Democratic Party. For instance, insisting their was major resistance among Hillary Clinton supporters against Barack Obama when he defeated her in 2008, which was largely not true and then that there was major resistance among Bernie Bros because of perceptions that the Democratic Party had manipulated the nominating process to Hillary Clinton’s advantage. There was a bit more traction for that view although it was not borne out in the polls. Trump did not win the critical midwestern states because he took Bernie Sanders’ voters away from Clinton. The divisions around Pelosi clearly delighted the conservative media, but given her successes giving mano-a-mano with Trump, I suspect there aren’t a whole lot of Democrats doubting her leadership now.

[Nemesis]

@DougBH

@vaard

Pelosi is going to grab trump by the ■■■■■ and make him her little female dog…

For the children.

Yes. She has shown that, in her own words, she is interested in political theatrics and not government. And from the posts in this thread, that is what her left base wants.

How can you say that with a straight face when Trump engages in theatrics on a daily basis on Twitter.

Ignore the reality all you like but it doesnt change the fsct that Pelosi has completely outmaneouvered Trump since January.

I have always maintained that the likes of Pelosi need to stand aside to make way for younger Democrats and while i still believe that i have to give her credit for her ability to show that congress still has power.

[Smyrna]

I agree. Nancy represents the left perfectly along with the sanitary conditions of her district.

[JayJay]

That’s “just fine”.