Operation Prosperity Guardian in Red Sea

Warships have multiple ADA systems. Drones are slow and easy to hit. Over open water they can’t hide once they come over the horizon and still have close to 20 miles to cover to get to the ship. If an E2 is covering the sea lane, the missile, or drone, will be detected at launch. The carriers in the area carry 5 E2s each. They can also be based out of Djibouti The EW suite on the warship will identify and jam any data links. The Aegis system will determine which are actual threats and engage them as appropriate. The missiles will be saved for defending other vessels and for shooting down ASMs. I expect the shipping to shift closer to the African Coast, which will make them harder to target from Yemen. The only reason this is still going on is because the man in the White House won’t hunt.

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Don’t confuse military capability with political willingness to use it.

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Yes they should have, but we haven’t had a President with a big enough set of balls to get a coalition of mideast states to support it.

Thanks for detailing that, my daughter told me only that they can resupply at sea but not any details.

Yea that Aegis system is badass, can track over 100 individual targets at once, and any drone that gets close will be pulverized by the CWIS on the DDG’s.

Also the F-18 Growlers can also jam just about anything out there and there is at least 1 squadron on the carrier.

And that is just what is public, we don’t know the true capabilities of our Electronic warfare capabilities, just like my daughter cannot tell me much about the sonar capabilities of the Burke class DDG’s, ■■■■ it classified Secret or TS.

Just sent my daughter an emal asking if they can rearm at sea or do they need a port. Not sure if she can answer, but that will give us 100% accurate info on at least that.

Just a minor thing, but when you say squadron of Growlers, tops were talking seven. Which is a squadron, but not more than that. And seven is a number they’re still playing around with.

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Yea I know, but one Growler can jam a ton of airspace

You might want to call it a day. It is clear that you have no earthly idea what you are talking about.

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Apparently the Iranians are spotting targets in the area for the Houthi. Sounds like an opportunity for someone’s submarine to send a message.

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Operation Remember the Maine in the Red Sea has practically Collapsed as France, Spain, and Italy have all announced their withdrawal from the U.S. Command Structure for the Operation

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Yes, here is a link:

At the same time, there are reports of an Israel-affiliated ship getting hit by a drone of the coast of India. At this point, there is only speculation about where the apparent drone attack came from.

Is the US caught in a game of whack-a-mole?

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-12-23/israel-affiliated-merchant-vessel-hit-by-aerial-vehicle-off-india-uk-firm

Probably because the Biden Administration wanted to micromanage every single military decision. JUST a guess but probably close.

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The US Navy appears to be in a win-the-battle-but-lose-the-war scenario as it exhausts limited stocks of expensive missiles in order to shoot down large numbers of cheap drones and missiles from the Houthis.


https://twitter.com/CENTCOM/status/1739746985652158755

• The Standard Missile-6 (SM-6) . . .These cost more than $4 million each.

• The Standard Missile-2 (SM-2) . . .They cost about $2.5 million each.

• The Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile (ESSM) . . . Each one costs more than $1 million.

. . . But as they are facing drones that can be produced and deployed in large numbers for unit prices well under $100,000, a prolonged campaign could eventually tax US resources, the experts say.

“These are advanced air intercept capabilities with an average cost of around $2 million - making the intercept of drones not … cost effective,” said Alessio Patalano, professor of war and strategy at King’s College in London.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/27/middleeast/red-sea-attacks-us-navy-warships-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

Meanwhile the Houthis continue to hit remaining commercial shipping that has not already diverted around Africa.

You do realize how silly you look when you make those kinds of ridiculous uninformed pronouncements? Or maybe you don’t. :thinking:

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A ragged-ass militia in sandals has effectively closed the Red Sea to commercial shipping while the US Navy is rapidly using up stocks of multi-million-dollar missiles to protect its own warships.

Not even remotely true. Iran has impacted Red Sea shipping but has not cut it off. The so-called ragged-ass militia is being supplied by Iran and being given the targeting information by Iran. Essentially it is an Iran operation using their Houthi proxy in Yemen.

Make no mistake, Iran is the dominant power in the Middle East and is calling the shots. Thus far, the US is giving them a wide berth, but that can quickly change should Iran make a critical miscalculation.

Not even remotely true. Iran has impacted Red Sea shipping but has not cut it off.

Correct. Only shipping linked to Israel and its allies has been targeted.

Insurance for western ships has either become very expensive or unavailable, and most ships are avoiding the Red Sea.

I suspect that the solution from the Washington will be to quietly subsidize insurance while applying arm-twisting to shipping companies to continue operations. Shipping would resume and the cost of damage will be picked up by American taxpayers. The US Navy can then declare victory and go home.

Ok genius, what is YOUR solution to this??

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