One and only Kavenaugh Hearings Thread (part 1)

[coolidge]

That is sad to think actual women out there are legitimately being hurt while liberals play games like this

[zantax]

@adroit

@matt1618

What party, what date is the party, where is the party. She doesn’t even remember where it was, nor the date. How can Kavanaugh answer the question where he was approximately 36 years ago, on a date they don’t even know, in reference to a party that no one can point to.

And yet Kav has definitively said he was most certainly not at that party. Hmmm???

No, that’s not what he said, what he said was he hadn’t been at any parties like that.

[Krandor]

@Excast

They care about convincing Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski to vote with them. Nothing more. And I sure as hell would not feel comfortable getting grilled by the type of people who defended Roy Moore and continue to support Donald Trump to this day despite his decades of cretinous behavior.

So how should the senate proceed then? Assume that the letter is fact and not give any opportunity for cross examination?

[Excast]

@coolidge

That is sad to think actual women out there are legitimately being hurt

We’ve all spent the past several years watching firsthand how very little conservative America cares about the women being hurt by sexual predators who believe they have some kind of right to treat people however they want as long as it benefits them.

[conan]

It is.

When they weaponize rape false accusation or racism they’re undermining the very people they claim to care about.

But we all know they only care about one thing and one thing only. To force themselves onto society.

And they will do it by any means necessary.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@DOLOOP

@johnwk2

Christine Ford’s new excuse for not testifying is, she wants the FBI to investigate Kavanaugh before she testifies.

See: Christine Blasey Ford Wants F.B.I. to Investigate Kavanaugh Before She Testifies

Sept. 18, 2018

”Speaking through her lawyers, Christine Blasey Ford did not explicitly rule out appearing next Monday before the Senate Judiciary Committee to testify along with Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh. But echoing Senate Democrats, she said an investigation should be “the first step” before she is put “on national television to relive this traumatic and harrowing incident.”

But the real reason seems to be, her lawyer probably told her anyone who knowing lies to Congress, especially one who is under oath, is guilty of perjury and shall be fined or imprisoned up to five years,

JWK

The unavoidable truth is, the Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’, Andrew Gillum and Ayanna Pressley’s socialist plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.

She’s been getting death threats.

Everybody gets death threats.

[Excast]

@Krandor

So how should the senate proceed then? Assume that the letter is fact and not give any opportunity for cross examination?

The Republican Senate spent the better part of a year looking for reasons not to even hold hearings for Merrick Garland, a man without a hint of personal scandal. Maybe they shouldn’t look for any reason to push through a proven perjurer who has been credibly accused of sexual misconduct that he and his team can’t seem to get their story straight on?

[Cynic]

I don’t…

[matt1618]

If someone tried to rape me, I’d think I’d remember the date, the exact location, and whose house it was at.

[Excast]

@matt1618

If someone tried to rape me, I’d think I’d remember the date, the exact location, and whose house it was at.

Well thankfully we have a bunch of conservative men around to tell women exactly how they should respond to sexual misconduct and the facts they should remember.

If empathy wasn’t a foreign concept to the right, some might realize that events like this can be extremely traumatizing and people actually try to forget them in order to move on with their lives and have meaningful relationships with people.

[Krandor]

@Excast

The Republican Senate spent the better part of a year looking for reasons not to even hold hearings for Merrick Garland, a man without a hint of personal scandal. Maybe they shouldn’t look for any reason to push through a proven perjurer who has been credibly accused of sexual misconduct that he and his team can’t seem to get their story straight on?

1. Where is he proven to be a purjurer?
2. How is the accusation credible that is 30+ years old when she won’t testify?

Again, your argument seems to be her story should just be acceptped and Kavanaugh’s career ruined with zero chance for him to face or cross examine his accuser.

[Krandor]

@Excast

If empathy wasn’t a foreign concept to the right, some might realize that events like this can be extremely traumatizing and people actually try to forget them in order to move on with their lives and have meaningful relationships with people.

I do think that is very possible but the problem for me comes in that if you have tried to forget something for 30 years and blocked it out if your recollection of what happned still accurate?

I do think something did happen to her but after 30+years and tryijng to suppress it is it possible she doesn’t still remember who it actually was?

[Eagle-Keeper]

@adroit

And what if anyone they contact does not want to be interviewed? Can they force them?

That’s seem awfully suspicious.

Isn’t it the fact that “legally speaking” nothing happened. So even if the FBI got involved, what crime would they be investigating? In other words, if they were to conduct interviews and some random names come up those people may not want to get involved in what is actually more of a political situation than anything legal.

[coolidge]

It’s pretty sad we have to try and separate liberal hack jobs trying to falsely accuse innocent defendants of foul play. The response from this country to legit victims could be better if liberals quit playing their hit jobs.

[Excast]

@Krandor

I do think that is very possible but the problem for me comes in that if you have tried to forget something for 30 years and blocked it out if your recollection of what happned still accurate?

I do think something did happen to her but after 30+years and tryijng to suppress it is it possible she doesn’t still remember who it actually was?

Many things are possible. I tend to err on the side of thinking a woman with a family and a career would not just randomly decide to destroy her life by subjecting herself to the scrutiny that comes with accusing a Supreme Court nominee of sexual misconduct.

[Girl_from_Ipanema]

@conan

It is.

When they weaponize rape false accusation or racism they’re undermining the very people they claim to care about.

But we all know they only care about one thing and one thing only. To force themselves onto society.

And they will do it by any means necessary.

This.

Nobody cares unless they can benefit somehow.

[Krandor]

@Excast

Many things are possible. I tend to err on the side of thinking a woman with a family and a career would not just randomly decide to destroy her life by subjecting herself to the scrutiny that comes with accusing a Supreme Court nominee of sexual misconduct.

and that is a fair assumption.

Do you not think kavanaugh deserves some chance to face his accuser or should her statement just be accepted as fact?

[Excast]

@coolidge

It’s pretty sad we have to try and separate liberal hack jobs trying to falsely accuse innocent defendants of foul play. The response from this country to legit victims could be better if liberals quit playing their hit jobs.

The Republican Party nominated and elected a President who repeatedly made it clear he was a sexual deviant, if not an outright predator. But yeah, tell me how much you all care about the plight of victims.

[matt1618]

And they tend to ignore things like this: MSN

[Excast]

@Krandor

Do you not think kavanaugh deserves some chance to face his accuser or should her statement just be accepted as fact?

I think he does, but I also totally understand her reservations about coming forward and having every aspect of her life absolutely shredded by a bunch of geriatric conservative men who could care less even if Kavanaugh did try to force himself on her. These are the type of people who coined the term “locker room talk” to excuse their nominee admitting to forcing himself on women because he believed his power entitled him to it.