Maybe not for you or me, but it’s quite expensive for a lot of people. Also, if one is living in a more urban area getting raw ingredients is not always accessible. Food deserts are real.
No, they aren’t really, plenty of food on the internet and usually better price than urban stores, sure, there is shipping cost but that is offset by no high priced rent for a retailer. Not to mention, I make a habit of visiting the local farmers market when I travel to various cities, almost all of them have them now. If you want, you can try and name one largish one that doesn’t.
Okay…
We going have to agree to disagree because I know what I see in SE DC or SW Philadelphia and others. Those places don’t have farmers market. For example, in SE DC, specifically east of the anacostia river there are 2 grocery stores(which are pricey), no farmers market, no whole foods, trader joes, etc,
Good grief. 
Take a look at your teeth. They haven’t evolved to eat soy.
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So, what I am hearing is, you might have to take a ride on the bus. Oh and I looked up your first example and found, Ward 8 Farmers Market, 3200 6th Street. Right across the river. DC does have busses right?
Now I know you have no idea what your talking about.
The US aquifers are not going down because of cattle.
No they are going down because we have more people.
Plus I will let you in a fact it takes a lot of water to grow all those veggies you eat.
Best thing to remember is: everything in moderation.
If what is best for you is more veggies and less meat? Then that is what is best for you.
I know I sometimes crave iron (yup, chicken livers, bacon and onion) or fat (yup, throw on a ribeye).
Other times, all I want is veggies or fish/seafood.
I’ve tried to start listening to my cravings (no that doesn’t mean a Snicker Bar) because my body is telling me it needs something I haven’t given it.
To each their own.
My view is simple. You can pry my medium rare ribeye out of my cold dead hands.
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Well, that explains a lot, lol… 
LOL…I see what you did there.
they are never interchangeable
Again, plants require a fraction of the water per calorie that meat or dairy does. Not my fault.
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That area apparently doesn’t have internet, so they can’t order online as you previously suggested.
Or maybe they do have internet, but delivery companies won’t deliver there. 
Especially when they try to grow rice in the California desert.
BTW, water doesn’t just go away. The earth has the same amount of water as ever.
What changes is the location of the water. And the purity of it. Clean aquifer water gets used, and runs off into streams and rivers and eventually into oceans. And from there we’re not drawing much back out. Aquifer water is easy. Ditto reservoir water. (Though environmentalists have been pecking away at removing dams across the country…) I think we’re really going to have to ramp up on desalinization.
You’re a Socialist now?
I’m sorry that you’ve suffered brain damage.
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Again I know how much water I poured on crops every year. And I know how much water livestock drinks. Not my fault you have not been in the business of raising cattle and crops and don’t really know what your talking about.
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Okay. I can’t let this one go. You clearly are misinformed and can claim whatever “personal knowledge” you want. But you are not entitled to your own set of facts and reality. What you’re saying is beyond untrue. Beyond fake.
Meat’s large water footprint: why raising livestock and poultry for meat is so resource-intensive
Shock is reasonable after discovering that the global average water footprint – or the total amount of water needed – to produce one pound of beef is 1,799 gallons of water; one pound of pork takes 576 gallons of water. As a comparison, the water footprint of soybeans is 216 gallons; corn is 108 gallons. (Compare more products here [US standard] and here [metric].)
Those of us who have EXTENSIVE experience in farming know automatically how absurd your claims are. Please go speak with some actual farmers. Please.
For the record, I love meat. I’m not going to quit eating meat. But I’m also not spreading fake news.
The first has to do with an animal’s efficiency to turn its food into body mass known as feed conversion ratios (FCR) (i.e., identical units of feed to meat, so feed: meat). The range of FCRs is based on the type of animal, and according to Dr. Robert Lawrence of Johns Hopkins University, the ratios are approximately 7:1 for beef, 5:1 for pork and 2.5:1 for poultry. The larger the animal, the larger the percentage of that animal’s body mass is inedible material like bone, skin and tissue. This is why beef conversion ratios are the highest and it takes exponentially less water and energy inputs to produce grains, beans and vegetables than meat. To be clear, raising a beef cow takes more resources because a typical beef cow in the US eats thousands of pounds of the above-listed corn and soybeans during its lifetime. Of course, the cultivation of field crops that are eventually fed to beef cattle require huge amounts of water, fertilizers, fuel to power farm machinery, land for farm fields and so forth. It all adds up.
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Please go speak with actual farmers. Seriously. This is just silly.
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Such a personal attack…why?
