NYC's Democrat Leadership will allow foreign nationals to vote in city elections

DougBH · 2021-11-29T19:42:37.139Z

biggestal99:

johnwk2:

“This move shows how much contempt the far left has for the New York City electorate

They can vote to disallow non citizens voters from voting in local elections.

Allan

Who can? The foreign nationals who are voting?

johnwk2 · 2021-11-29T19:43:14.654Z

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

johnwk2:

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

DMK:

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

If you are a legal resident, you should be able to vote.

Legal US Citizen or Legal resident of a city?

Legal resident of your locality, I say.

And I’ll stick with naturalized citizen, and all that is invested in becoming a naturalized citizen which makes for a more astute and educated voter.

JWK

At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs. Powel anxiously awaited the results and as Benjamin Franklin emerged from the long task now finished asked him directly, Well, Doctor, what have we got? A republic or a monarchy?' A republic, if you can keep it,’ responded Franklin.

That works for federal elections.

And why does the same principal not work for state and local elections? Are you saying the investment made to become a naturalized citizen does not produce a more astute and educated local voter?

JWK

The liberty to succeed or fail at one’s own hand is a PROGRESSIVE`S nightmare and not the American Dream

Jezcoe · 2021-11-29T19:50:45.511Z

As an NYC taxpayer… I have no problem with legal non citizens voting in local elections.

WorldWatcher · 2021-11-29T19:52:42.291Z

johnwk2:

And why does the same principal not work for state and local elections? Are you saying the investment made to become a naturalized citizen does not produce a more astute and educated local voter?

JWK

Hell, being a US Citizen didn’t produce more astute and educated voters.

That’s how we ended up with Trump** and Biden in the Oval Office sequentially.

WW

Yossarian · 2021-11-29T19:54:23.411Z

DMK:

Smyrna:

If this is the concept you’re applying, then I am sure you’re disgusted about the new 2 or 3 trillion dollar bill being proposed by Pelosi and company? Those that will pay for it, haven’t even been born yet so that is the epitome of “taxation without representation”…agreed?

If I live in a neighborhood and it is just me in a home versus 10 living in a home in the same neighborhood and we pay the same in taxes for said home, what is my vote worth?

You’re assuming everyone living in a home in NYC owns their home? They don’t. In addition, workers in NYC pay City Income Tax (and sales tax).

johnwk2 · 2021-11-29T19:56:03.546Z

WorldWatcher:

johnwk2:

And why does the same principal not work for state and local elections? Are you saying the investment made to become a naturalized citizen does not produce a more astute and educated local voter?

JWK

Hell, being a US Citizen didn’t produce more astute and educated voters.

That’s how we ended up with Trump** and Biden in the Oval Office sequentially.

WW

Well, isn’t that special? Your projection and Trump Derangement Syndrome is very telling.

JWK

It is absolutely shameful that those in our mainstream media and Hollywood crowd, having achieved fame, fortune and great success under a free market, free enterprise system, now work to destroy that system and impose a notoriously evil, Cuban style government, on America’s future generations.

DMK · 2021-11-29T19:56:32.301Z

Yossarian:

You’re assuming everyone living in a home in NYC owns their home? They don’t. In addition, workers in NYC pay City Income Tax (and sales tax).

Nope. If 10 people live in that home, what does their vote count for if the owner of that home votes differently?

WorldWatcher · 2021-11-29T19:57:05.972Z

johnwk2:

Well, isn’t that special? Your projection and Trump Derangement Syndrome is very telling.

JWK

The fact that I think Trump** was a major mistake for my party isn’t news to anyone around here.

WW

biggestal99 · 2021-11-29T20:00:09.082Z

johnwk2:

But, we as a country, are not a democracy

But of course locally there is, there is no electoral college for mayor of New York.

Most votes gets to run the show.

Allan

DougBH · 2021-11-29T20:01:39.706Z

Personally, I see no problem with someone who is here legally and in the process of becoming naturalized from voting locally. We have accepted them for that purpose eventually. Here illegally?…you are an interloper here until the law is enforced to remove you with no more right to vote than a tourist.

TheRedComet · 2021-11-29T20:01:48.745Z

It’s pretty fascinating.

It’s basically getting a piece of an interesting foreign culture (various Chinese cultures) without having to go overseas and deal with CCP. First time in my life I ever ate real Chinese food.

It’s basically like a miniature version of what I imagine Shanghai or Beijing is like. Fast paced, street cooking, electronic stores up and down every street. People doing martial arts shows and playing traditional Chinese music.

I’m really glad I got a chance to experience it.

johnwk2 · 2021-11-29T20:03:43.859Z

johnwk2:

NYC voters had no say in this abrupt and authoritarian decision. It is being done without the people’s consent.

And you have no problem with NYC voters having no say in this profound and radical decision, which was made without the people’s consent?

JWK

It is absolutely shameful that those in our mainstream media and Hollywood crowd, having achieved fame, fortune and great success under a free market, free enterprise system, now work to destroy that system and impose a notoriously evil, Cuban style government, on America’s future generations.

johnwk2 · 2021-11-29T20:08:53.317Z

WorldWatcher:

johnwk2:

Well, isn’t that special? Your projection and Trump Derangement Syndrome is very telling.

JWK

The fact that I think Trump** was a major mistake for my party isn’t news to anyone around here.

WW

But it does give a clear insight into your irrational thinking.

JWK

President Trump was spot on when he indicated the Democrat Party Leadership’s open border policy is a Trojan horse, and intended to destroy the United States from within.

Oldandtired · 2021-11-29T20:10:41.177Z

Your major mistake was voting for your parties candidate jbiden**.

DMK · 2021-11-29T20:17:26.047Z

TheRedComet:

It’s pretty fascinating.

It’s basically getting a piece of an interesting foreign culture (various Chinese cultures) without having to go overseas and deal with CCP. First time in my life I ever ate real Chinese food.

It’s basically like a miniature version of what I imagine Shanghai or Beijing is like. Fast paced, street cooking, electronic stores up and down every street. People doing martial arts shows and playing traditional Chinese music.

I’m really glad I got a chance to experience it.

I’d love to experience it.

Should it be cancelled?

TheRedComet · 2021-11-29T20:20:29.435Z

Absolutely not.

It would be like canceling Friday and Saturday night on the Rue Bourbon in New Orleans.

The city would lose a piece of its soul.

W_and_C · 2021-11-29T20:38:00.487Z

johnwk2:

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

johnwk2:

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

DMK:

Here's to feeling good all the time. :

If you are a legal resident, you should be able to vote.

Legal US Citizen or Legal resident of a city?

Legal resident of your locality, I say.

And I’ll stick with naturalized citizen, and all that is invested in becoming a naturalized citizen which makes for a more astute and educated voter.

JWK

At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs. Powel anxiously awaited the results and as Benjamin Franklin emerged from the long task now finished asked him directly, Well, Doctor, what have we got? A republic or a monarchy?' A republic, if you can keep it,’ responded Franklin.

That works for federal elections.

And why does the same principal not work for state and local elections? Are you saying the investment made to become a naturalized citizen does not produce a more astute and educated local voter?

JWK

The liberty to succeed or fail at one’s own hand is a PROGRESSIVE`S nightmare and not the American Dream

Each locality should have the freedom to decide it for themselves. I would think a small government conservative would welcome this. U.S. = federal, this is where it’s relevant.

What exactly is the harm of letting legal residents who participate in life of a city vote on local issues relevant to them ?

WorldWatcher · 2021-11-29T20:40:45.961Z

Oldandtired:

Your major mistake was voting for your parties candidate jbiden**.

#1 I’m not a democrat, I was a loyal GOP voter for 40 years until my party went off the deep end. This year I voted for Governor Younkin (R) in Virginia. We’ll see if he goes off the deep end or if the split General Assembly will keep him in check.

#2 The " * * " is one asterisk per impeachment so it’s Trump** (he was impeached twice) and for Biden - it’s well just “Biden” as he hasn’t been impeached yet. Hey but don’t give up hope, the GOP will have the House after 2022 and will impeach Biden for something.

WW

DMK · 2021-11-29T20:42:53.077Z

TheRedComet:

Absolutely not.

It would be like canceling Friday and Saturday night on the Rue Bourbon in New Orleans.

The city would lose a piece of its soul.

I agree. I’d like to experience it.

So, the cancel culture is discriminate?

Dem · 2021-11-29T20:46:21.081Z

DMK:

So, the cancel culture is discriminate?

I’m trying to figure out what you are getting at. But want does cancel culture have to do with Chinatown? Or foreign nationals who are residents voting in local elections?