November 2025 ADP jobs report minus 32,000

not too much good news on this report.

another bad jobs report.

manufacturing jobs down once again.

Allan

prob because we’re cleaning house of illegals

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Larger businesses, entailing companies with 50 or more employees, actually reported a net gain of 90,000 workers. However, establishments with fewer than 50 saw a decline of 120,000.

Small businesses are the ones most affected. Hmmmmmm…could this be a ramification of illegal aliens being deported?

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Great minds. :tumbler_glass:

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But I thought illegals were paid under the table? Why then would they be on payroll app like adp?

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Great minds? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

But I thought illegals were paid under the table? Why then would they be on payroll app like adp?

people paid under the table with no Social security taxes womt appear on a payroll report. lol

just MAGA trying to rationalize job losses at small businesses.

Allan

PS manufacturing jobs down 18,000 for the month

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Haven’t seen numbers like that in a long time.
It’s a good thing we already have a jobs board ready to go.

small business are always get hit first in economic turbulence. They don’t have the capital to survive disruptions like in their work force or tariffs or other factors.

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you thought wrong

what’s new right?

illegals can use ITINs without a legit soc sec no

with this they can be on payrolls and have taxes withheld

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So illegals are put in ADP payroll systems?

How? The primary key for payroll is social security number or itin

To get an ITIN, one must apply for one through the IRS. You have to provide documentation to get one.

An illegal immgrant is doing that? :rofl::rofl:

walk over the border illegal no but visa overstay yes. You just need a passport and one other legal document to fill out a W-7 to get an ITN. ITN is just a federal tax document and has nothing to do with legal status.

so many “lol’s” and laughing emotes….

i guess ignorance is funny

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These aren’t illegals…you said illegals are the reason the job numbers dropped in ADP reporting.

Why would an illegal get a legal ITIN or social security number?

um.. “undocumented immigrants” are illegal

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If they are undocumented they cannot get a ITIN or social. Because that requires documents

you disagree with the article i linked then. ok

To get a ITIN you need to submit for one via the IRS.

You need documentation to submit for one. Therefore you cannot be “undocumented”