Orygun
October 23, 2023, 4:28pm
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Yeah- its interesting because they used to honestly say they wanted to cut spending with a straight face back then when they talked about cutting 'entitlements".
Now when they talk about “cutting spending” it means they want to chip away at spending priorities they hate but don’t mean anything in the larger picture of reducing the deficit.
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Jezcoe
October 23, 2023, 4:29pm
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Guntsu:
I used to think that, but I think what’s happening now is a shift towards populism in the pug party.
Old school pugs are not for it, part of the reason other then outright incompetence is why I believe there is no set policy outside of the usual buzzwords.
It will be interesting to see if the pugs are ever able to coalesce once again. But I doubt it, MAGA has shown it’s cracks and the establishment wing is ready to pounce. With their voter base being the wildcard.
They aren’t dumb enough to cut it for their base… the current recipients. They do want to cut and privatize it for future people though.
Privitizing the commons is what they now live for.
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Guntsu
October 23, 2023, 4:33pm
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I see this happening on a state level, but nothing tangible on a national front. Could be the lead up…
Maybe I’m missing something, but that’s a good point.
WuWei
October 23, 2023, 4:41pm
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I gave you the primary sources from the designers!
Your post tells me a lot about your enabling. Not at all surprising. Very disappointing.
What do you feel neo-Marxism is?
WuWei
October 23, 2023, 4:42pm
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No, he was a useful idiot.
Orygun
October 23, 2023, 4:49pm
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For who? Clinton actually moved the Democrat party away from its FDR roots towards a much more neo-liberal path.
Orygun
October 23, 2023, 4:56pm
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WuWei:
For them.
I’ll pass on the guessing games today.
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what are the top ten states gdp per capita?
Allan
hint: the liberal coasts are the driver for GDP
Allan
JayJay
October 23, 2023, 11:25pm
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Wrong.
It’s not that they can’t.
It’s that they have no desire to.
They want to be their own self-fulfilling prophecy.
They campaigned on the notion. The government doesn’t work, and now they are doing their best to show that it indeed does not work.
Ceasar
October 23, 2023, 11:42pm
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Seems it is in your case…
Ceasar
October 23, 2023, 11:46pm
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Steel-W0LF:
I’m semi in agreement with the OP, but I think it will instead get to the point that the central part of the country leave the liberal coasts to their own devices.
Once the part of the country that actually produces things leaves, the liberal ■■■■ holes will turn into the 3rd world holes they so desire to be like.
They might try to prevent the split. If they do that would be a mistake. Most of the firearms are owned by the right, as well as the military leaning that direction. Unless things change more it’s more likely the military would side with the ones leaving.
Except they are indoctrinating the youth nationwide. Rural areas too.
Good. Then you can buy everything you need to survive from those of us that actually make it. And you can pay what we decide to charge you for it.
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Orygun:
What’s left? They no longer want to slash or privatize Medicare and SS. And they won’t touch Defense so that means they don’t really want to cut spending.
So…A gigantic 2000 mile long border wall. No immigration by “dangerous” people.
Anything else?
Devolve power to the states and counties and families vs. The national socialist uniparty agenda of accruing more and more power to central government and profiteering off their control of the levers of power. That’s notable
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Orygun:
Seriously tho- do you define most all of the western world as having Marxist governments? Because most of Europe and Canada are to the Left of the US.
Most liberal democracies these days mix in a bit of State interventions (social programs, welfare, etc) along with promoting capitalism through reducing taxes and regulations. Is there any way to have an honest conversation about that instead of resorting to silly terms like “Marxist!!”
No.
A dozen of posts back WuWei said something and Lucy called him dumb.
Also…Marx was the author so the product is called Marxism for that reason.
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Orygun
October 24, 2023, 1:42pm
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I mean I just laid out how red states have been able to run their own show by vastly restricting abortion, gut most gun laws, ennact LGBTQ laws, etc. What specifically more do you want- policy wise- outside of complete dissolution of the Union?
Orygun:
I mean I just laid out how red states have been able to run their own show by vastly restricting abortion, gut most gun laws, ennact LGBTQ laws, etc. What specifically more do you want- policy wise- outside of complete dissolution of the Union?
Oh. You don’t like states enacting laws the majority of their particular voting constituents want to see enacted, so you would prefer different laws to be imposed on states by a more centralised power. You don’t like states practising democracy, it seems.
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