Not completely happy, but I can support the 1.5 trillion stimulus proposal

[DMK]

@Nemesis

As a green card holder myself, I can tell you that getting access to welfare is a complex and convoluted process. Federal programs, state programs and even local programs all have different requirements.

As it should be. You are not a citizen (yet).

@Nemesis

I need to get my arse into gear and finish my citizenship. My divorce a few years ago caused me some problems on thar front but all is good now. However no way I am renouncing my British citizenship. Looking at how things are. going having a US and a UK passport could be useful.

Sorry to hear that (divorce). I hope you can get your citizenship.

[DMK]

@tnt

Do you want to walk the streets of your town to a restaurant and chat along the way with happy healthy people, or do you want to step over the homeless on teh way?

Fortunately, I don’t live where homeless abound. I’d much rather the United States take care of its own before we start taking care of others.

[tnt]

Lol.

It’s the GOP who doesn’t want to spend more.

[tnt]

@DMK

Fortunately, I don’t live where homeless abound. I’d much rather the United States take care of its own before we start taking care of others.

Green card holders are ‘our own’ workforce and neighbors.

[NebraskaFootball]

@tnt

Lol.

It’s the GOP who doesn’t want to spend more.

Yep. It’s Meadows and the GOP Senate that are stonewalling. Trump and the Democrats are willing to spend whatever they can.

I’m not saying I agree with it at all. But it’s the truth.

[DMK]

@tnt

Green card holders are ‘our own’ workforce and neighbors.

Are they citizens of this or another country?

[tnt]

@DMK

Are they citizens of this or another country?

Obviously of another.

But they are still ‘our own’ tax paying, economy driving work force and neighbors.

[Medicswife2002]

I don’t know about state welfare systems, but for sure in Ohio, green card holders are eligible to apply for federal financial assistance to go to college. I agree with that.

[Snow96]

Well well well. 1.5 trillion compromise dead with Dem House Leadership.

“We believe that getting to a compromise is absolutely essential,” Hoyer told reporters Tuesday. “Getting to a compromise that does not deal with the problems, however, is not useful, because the longer you delay addressing many of the problems, the greater you weaken both the economy and the response to COVID-19.”

Translation: Mo money, mo money, mo money.

https://www.myarklamiss.com/news/second-stimulus-checks:-democratic-leadership-rejects-bipartisan-proposal-with-$1,200-direct-payments/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=socialflow&fbclid=IwAR1wVErWm4eFJG0sUowFhSkC6XShVV47mWI1HyN_wvz9tCIlwJZ_vHL2neA

Should be brougfht to a vot to see if it passes. bi partisan written, Dem’s afraid it will pass with bi-partisan support in both houses and president sign?

[WuWei]

@tnt

People here on green cards have to have a job.

No they don’t.

[zantax]

@WuWei

@Snow96

@WuWei

No. You went too far. Legal residents are legal.

Can a legal resident (non citizen) vote? Can they be deported? They are not guaranteed all rights and privileges of citizens. There fore they are not guaranteed any relief that citizens may get.

No relief is guaranteed for anybody Snow. Do legal residents pay taxes? Yes. That’s where the money comes from. If they are here legally and pay taxes, they have the privilege to the same relief I do.

Can they leave and go back to their home countries? No.

Is that where this money is coming from? eyes the debt and deficit and fed printing presses

[zantax]

@Nemesis

@tnt

@DMK

As net takers or givers? Do they write a check quarterly or at the end of the year to the United States Treasury?

@tnt

It would benefit us all if they are kept fed and sheltered.

Why is that?

People here on green cards have to have a job. Their presence benefits their employers, their landlords, the stores they shop in and the governments they pay taxes too. Green card holders are net givers.

Societies are stronger - economically (and spiritually IMO) - if they are filled with healthy, productive members who contribute both financially and socially to the society.

Economically, it’s far cheaper to help members keep their existing place of shelter, help them stay healthy through good diet, and keeping the heat on, than it is to watch them get sick and homeless, or toss them in jail.

It’s cheaper to pay someone a months rent, than to keep them a month in the hospital or jail.

And spiritually, do you want to commute to work on a bus surrounded by happy, healthy productive people, or around out of work, on the street people nervous for their next meal?

Do you want to walk the streets of your town to a restaurant and chat along the way with happy healthy people, or do you want to step over the homeless on teh way?

As a green card holder myself, I can tell you that getting access to welfare is a complex and convoluted process. Federal programs, state programs and even local programs all have different requirements.

I have been fortunate that in the entire time I have been in the US I have been employed, other Brit expats I know have not been so fortunate.

I need to get my arse into gear and finish my citizenship. My divorce a few years ago caused me some problems on thar front but all is good now. However no way I am renouncing my British citizenship. Looking at how things are. going having a US and a UK passport could be useful.

You realize you would be starting out your citizenship swearing an oath you don’t mean right?

[Nemesis]

@zantax

@Nemesis

@tnt

@DMK

As net takers or givers? Do they write a check quarterly or at the end of the year to the United States Treasury?

@tnt

It would benefit us all if they are kept fed and sheltered.

Why is that?

People here on green cards have to have a job. Their presence benefits their employers, their landlords, the stores they shop in and the governments they pay taxes too. Green card holders are net givers.

Societies are stronger - economically (and spiritually IMO) - if they are filled with healthy, productive members who contribute both financially and socially to the society.

Economically, it’s far cheaper to help members keep their existing place of shelter, help them stay healthy through good diet, and keeping the heat on, than it is to watch them get sick and homeless, or toss them in jail.

It’s cheaper to pay someone a months rent, than to keep them a month in the hospital or jail.

And spiritually, do you want to commute to work on a bus surrounded by happy, healthy productive people, or around out of work, on the street people nervous for their next meal?

Do you want to walk the streets of your town to a restaurant and chat along the way with happy healthy people, or do you want to step over the homeless on teh way?

As a green card holder myself, I can tell you that getting access to welfare is a complex and convoluted process. Federal programs, state programs and even local programs all have different requirements.

I have been fortunate that in the entire time I have been in the US I have been employed, other Brit expats I know have not been so fortunate.

I need to get my arse into gear and finish my citizenship. My divorce a few years ago caused me some problems on thar front but all is good now. However no way I am renouncing my British citizenship. Looking at how things are. going having a US and a UK passport could be useful.

You realize you would be starting out your citizenship swearing an oath you don’t mean right?

Its all good. Absolutely no problem in having dual citizenship with the UK

The US does not formally acknowledge dual citizenship but neither do they penalize nor do I risk my US citizenship.

[zantax]

@Nemesis

@zantax

@Nemesis

@tnt

@DMK

As net takers or givers? Do they write a check quarterly or at the end of the year to the United States Treasury?

@tnt

It would benefit us all if they are kept fed and sheltered.

Why is that?

People here on green cards have to have a job. Their presence benefits their employers, their landlords, the stores they shop in and the governments they pay taxes too. Green card holders are net givers.

Societies are stronger - economically (and spiritually IMO) - if they are filled with healthy, productive members who contribute both financially and socially to the society.

Economically, it’s far cheaper to help members keep their existing place of shelter, help them stay healthy through good diet, and keeping the heat on, than it is to watch them get sick and homeless, or toss them in jail.

It’s cheaper to pay someone a months rent, than to keep them a month in the hospital or jail.

And spiritually, do you want to commute to work on a bus surrounded by happy, healthy productive people, or around out of work, on the street people nervous for their next meal?

Do you want to walk the streets of your town to a restaurant and chat along the way with happy healthy people, or do you want to step over the homeless on teh way?

As a green card holder myself, I can tell you that getting access to welfare is a complex and convoluted process. Federal programs, state programs and even local programs all have different requirements.

I have been fortunate that in the entire time I have been in the US I have been employed, other Brit expats I know have not been so fortunate.

I need to get my arse into gear and finish my citizenship. My divorce a few years ago caused me some problems on thar front but all is good now. However no way I am renouncing my British citizenship. Looking at how things are. going having a US and a UK passport could be useful.

You realize you would be starting out your citizenship swearing an oath you don’t mean right?

Its all good. Absolutely no problem in having dual citizenship with the UK

The US does not formally acknowledge dual citizenship but neither do they penalize nor do I risk my US citizenship.

What does the oath have you swearing to though?

[Nemesis]

I know what the oath says. Dont worry no UK prince, potentate or even the UK state is going to ask me to do anything that will jeopardize the united states.

Trust me I will be able to live, work and contribute to the US with no issues.

[zantax]

@Nemesis

I know what the oath says. Dont worry no UK prince, potentate or even the UK state is going to ask me to do anything that will jeopardize the united states.

Trust me I will be able to live, work and contribute to the US with no issues.

So, as I was saying, your oath will be a lie.

[Nemesis]

@zantax

@Nemesis

I know what the oath says. Dont worry no UK prince, potentate or even the UK state is going to ask me to do anything that will jeopardize the united states.

Trust me I will be able to live, work and contribute to the US with no issues.

So, as I was saying, your oath will be a lie.

Nope not a lie, just will be keeping my UK passport which US law has no issue with.

Dont worry about it. It has zero impact on you.

[TommyLucchese]

@zantax

So, as I was saying, your oath will be a lie.

This is how you can tell you guys only care about illegal immigrants and actually support legal immigration.

[Snow96]

@TommyLucchese

This is how you can tell you guys only care about illegal immigrants and actually support legal immigration.

I hereby declare, on oath , that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen

The poster is just pointing out that the other will be lieing when he renounces under oath. My book, that’s a reason to revoke the new ciutizen status,

[Nemesis]

@Snow96

@TommyLucchese

This is how you can tell you guys only care about illegal immigrants and actually support legal immigration.

I hereby declare, on oath , that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen

The poster is just pointing out that the other will be lieing when he renounces under oath. My book, that’s a reason to revoke the new ciutizen status,

How can you prove someone is lying? Prove that I will be more beholden to the UK than the US? Where does the oath say I have to revoke citizenship.

If it was such a concern for the US government they would not allow it.

Does anyone really think the Queen is going to start asking me to do nefarious things to hurt the US? Get real.