I am on the left…in 40+ years I have never been w/out a job for more than a few weeks.
Just admit many of those on the right primarily use feelings for their positions, vs actual reality.
I am on the left…in 40+ years I have never been w/out a job for more than a few weeks.
Just admit many of those on the right primarily use feelings for their positions, vs actual reality.
Same here. Living on welfare sounds pretty terrible to me. I like being able to buy stuff I want and live a comfortable life. I’m certainty not alone.
We all like to buy stuff and be left alone.
I am in the middle and never been without a job since I was 12 years old. I always looked for better opportunities to excell.
Iike to believe that being a problem solver rather than a problem creater it the way to go.
BraveGear: fallenturtle:We don’t. The vast majority of the American left is against dictatorships and likes a economy that is a mix of private and public owned, but mostly private owned, and based on market forces, not planned.
You can’t have a Socialist Government without it turning into a dictatorship.
This depends on what your definition of “socialist government” is. If your definition is a government led by a party that is pro-socialism, you totally can. For example if Jeremy Corbyn was elected PM of the UK, the UK wouldn’t suddenly become a dictatorship and the process of making it one wouldn’t be easy. And here in the US were Sanders to be elected President we wouldn’t become a dictatorship either and the process of turning us into one is near impossible with our current structures short of declaring martial law.
On the other hand if what you actually mean is “state socialism” like the USSR or China its actually backwards from what you said. These were dictatorships that imposed state socialism (in practice state capitalism since the elites profited off the workers).
And also its important when having these fever dreams of a communist take over that the self-proclaimed socialists in office in the US are all Democratic Socialists which unlike the pro-dictatorship/revolution Marxist/Leninist that you think they are actually support implementing socialism through the democratic system which means you the US won’t convert from capitalism to socialism without a super majority of citizens supporting it. And if the 2020 Democratic primary was any indication, the fact that Biden beat Sanders shows that the average Democrat voter isn’t ready for socialism.
If Capitalism was so bad and Socialism so good then why aren’t the caravans of migrants headed from here to Venezuela? Why aren’t you among them?
Okay, I’ll need your help with this one because I don’t know how your brain works… how did you read:
fallenturtle:We don’t. The vast majority of the American left is against dictatorships and likes a economy that is a mix of private and public owned, but mostly private owned, and based on market forces, not planned.
and hear “I love socialism, hate capitalism, and want the US to be socialist!”?
Because we know a socialist agenda when we see one, regardless the label put on it, and we see what the left daily espouses and hates.
+10. Ceasar
fallenturtle: BraveGear: fallenturtle:We don’t. The vast majority of the American left is against dictatorships and likes a economy that is a mix of private and public owned, but mostly private owned, and based on market forces, not planned.
You can’t have a Socialist Government without it turning into a dictatorship.
This depends on what your definition of “socialist government” is. If your definition is a government led by a party that is pro-socialism, you totally can. For example if Jeremy Corbyn was elected PM of the UK, the UK wouldn’t suddenly become a dictatorship and the process of making it one wouldn’t be easy. And here in the US were Sanders to be elected President we wouldn’t become a dictatorship either and the process of turning us into one is near impossible with our current structures short of declaring martial law.
On the other hand if what you actually mean is “state socialism” like the USSR or China its actually backwards from what you said. These were dictatorships that imposed state socialism (in practice state capitalism since the elites profited off the workers).
And also its important when having these fever dreams of a communist take over that the self-proclaimed socialists in office in the US are all Democratic Socialists which unlike the pro-dictatorship/revolution Marxist/Leninist that you think they are actually support implementing socialism through the democratic system which means you the US won’t convert from capitalism to socialism without a super majority of citizens supporting it. And if the 2020 Democratic primary was any indication, the fact that Biden beat Sanders shows that the average Democrat voter isn’t ready for socialism.
If Capitalism was so bad and Socialism so good then why aren’t the caravans of migrants headed from here to Venezuela? Why aren’t you among them?
Okay, I’ll need your help with this one because I don’t know how your brain works… how did you read:
fallenturtle:We don’t. The vast majority of the American left is against dictatorships and likes a economy that is a mix of private and public owned, but mostly private owned, and based on market forces, not planned.
and hear “I love socialism, hate capitalism, and want the US to be socialist!”?
Because we know a socialist agenda when we see one, regardless the label put on it, and we see what the left daily espouses and hates.
Care to define what policies you see as a socialist agenda?
Guilds: Liberty323:Just admit the left wants to avoid work and make the rest of us pay
I am on the left…in 40+ years I have never been w/out a job for more than a few weeks.
Same here. Living on welfare sounds pretty terrible to me. I like being able to buy stuff I want and live a comfortable life. I’m certainty not alone.
My life certainly hasn’t been comfortable under democrat rule. Gas & groceries through the roof, & prices of almost everything. I been preparing better than last time, so should fare better, but it’s still hurting me. I knew it was going to be like this as soon as Biden stole the election, so I got busy preparing. When O won, I didn’t realize just how bad it would be, & went broke.
This time it’s bad, but I sold out before real estate falls to half value, (it’s next in spite of inflation) so I at least have something to get me through, but construction is already slowing, & I know the local economy is going into the toilet as last time, same policies, but at least I’ll weather it if democrats lose in November, (well, IF it’s not too late) but prosper? Nah…
Comfortable? Maybe you are NOW, it could end in total depression this time, there’s a HUGE auto finance bubble about to burst, over a trillion dollars in default, but hey, the democrat media won’t report it, credit cards is next, almost same thing, people are going into debt buying gas & groceries, next is a housing bubble, it will be much worse than 2008, MUCH WORSE, & may be a perfect storm economically.
But it’s all as planned by the left, for the great reset. I bet when that comes, a lot of YOU on the left regret it, (too late by then) because YOU WILL get hurt by it, really, really badly…but hey!..
Because we know a socialist agenda when we see one, regardless the label put on it, and we see what the left daily espouses and hates.
Imho that’s one of the reasons lefties are trying so hard to bastardize the language…
Weather is now climate change…
Recession really isn’t two quarters of negative economic growth…
We’ve got how many terms to change the simplest concept of a man and a woman…
Men are getting pregnant who knew!!!
They just passed something named the “inflation reduction act” that does nothing to reduce inflation in reality could cause things to cost more…
At least since Obama the idea of racism now means “conservative who dares to disagree with me…”
These people do everything they can to make government bigger and more powerful while spewing mindless pablum about “democracy”. (It’s a republic…and the bigger and more powerful government gets the less freedom we have…if you support 87000 new irs agents don’t ever say another word about democracy.).
The left as it exists today in America is dangerous.
The left as it exists today in America is dangerous.
so true
Brilliant
Because we know a socialist agenda when we see one, regardless the label put on it, and we see what the left daily espouses and hates.
Ceasar:Because we know a socialist agenda when we see one, regardless the label put on it, and we see what the left daily espouses and hates.
Truth, the left of course denies it.
Liberty323:Neither of those quadrupled the taxes to come of our my paycheck to support parasites.
There is a disgusting history when some humans call other humans, sub-human.
I call BS on your taxes quadrupled claim.
You claimed the unborn weren’t human in another thread. Splinter and log saying applies.
You claimed the unborn weren’t human in another thread.
Did I?
Link?
fallenturtle: Ceasar:Because we know a socialist agenda when we see one, regardless the label put on it, and we see what the left daily espouses and hates.
Truth, the left of course denies it.
I’m sure you believe that.
fallenturtle: Guilds: Liberty323:Just admit the left wants to avoid work and make the rest of us pay
I am on the left…in 40+ years I have never been w/out a job for more than a few weeks.
Same here. Living on welfare sounds pretty terrible to me. I like being able to buy stuff I want and live a comfortable life. I’m certainty not alone.
My life certainly hasn’t been comfortable under democrat rule. Gas & groceries through the roof, & prices of almost everything. I been preparing better than last time, so should fare better, but it’s still hurting me. I knew it was going to be like this as soon as Biden stole the election, so I got busy preparing. When O won, I didn’t realize just how bad it would be, & went broke.
This time it’s bad, but I sold out before real estate falls to half value, (it’s next in spite of inflation) so I at least have something to get me through, but construction is already slowing, & I know the local economy is going into the toilet as last time, same policies, but at least I’ll weather it if democrats lose in November, (well, IF it’s not too late) but prosper? Nah…
Comfortable? Maybe you are NOW, it could end in total depression this time, there’s a HUGE auto finance bubble about to burst, over a trillion dollars in default, but hey, the democrat media won’t report it, credit cards is next, almost same thing, people are going into debt buying gas & groceries, next is a housing bubble, it will be much worse than 2008, MUCH WORSE, & may be a perfect storm economically.
But it’s all as planned by the left, for the great reset. I bet when that comes, a lot of YOU on the left regret it, (too late by then) because YOU WILL get hurt by it, really, really badly…but hey!..
Ah, I see what’s going on here.