No mask mandate no vaccine

Yep… good thing he will not be in charge of anything by then.

You got a few things wrong here, but instead of correcting them, I’m wondering why if you think this you aren’t for 100% government ran healthcare.

Why should individuals be penalized for the laws of their states? It’s doubtful these states that don’t have a mandate forbid anyone from wearing one.

It’s funny many of those who are so gung ho about HPV vaccine are OK with opting out of, or denying others, vaccines against diseases that are highly contagious.

Someone wants the vaccine, they should be able to get it. Here’s the priority before the vaccine is available to the general public:

It was being addressed to the OP as to who…has the greater right to the vaccine. The logic I was using is that those who paid the most, should be first in line. That said, both reasons are stupid and I was hoping that was obvious?

I wouldn’t have a problem with government healthcare but IMO the level of care would drop. Therefore what I’d ask is that the amount applied for healthcare could be a voucher issued and then those who are willing/capable of paying more, can apply it elsewhere, where in they’re opinion, the healthcare is more like what they have right now.

So what? I have always said that Trump has all the makings of a vindictive tyrant.

But if you agree with the OP, you must think Trump’s idea is a good one, right?

Wow, yep, I heard it alright:

“As soon as April, the vaccine will be ready to the entire population, with the exception of places like New York State…”

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…but mainly Cuomo. :sunglasses:

These people advocate mask mandates.

Why, then, should someone not be able to sit in church, synagogue, mosque, temple, whatever just as long as they’re not shoulder to shoulder with their neighbors and wearing a mask?

I sure wish some would decide what it is they want to be so the rest of us can call them wannabes. They’re very contradictory.

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This is was your legitimate chance this week to scream “authoritarian!” and you squander it on emojies.

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I get your logic, its just that here’s the part that makes me wonder why with this logic you aren’t for govt care.

See, your tax dollars didn’t develop a vaccine, but if you think they did and that Pfizer didn’t build that, then who needs Pfizer?

That’s because…no one puts baby in the corner…period :sunglasses:

From the link:

“ … the task force developed four pieces of criteria to inform who’ll get access to a vaccine first.

They are as follows:

  • Risk of acquiring infection: people who have a greater risk of being in an environment where COVID-19 spreads
  • Risk of severe morbidity and mortality: people who have a higher risk of experiencing severe complications or death from the disease
  • Risk of negative societal impact: people whom society depends on for essential tasks
  • Risk of transmitting disease: people who have a greater chance of spreading the disease to others.”

That last one would cover young generally healthy people who are not taking any precautions and are going about their business as if the virus does not exist. Make sense of that.

Hurr’ago

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So where did the $9 billion that the government gave to pharmaceutical companies to develop vaccines come from?

You think they did it for free? If not, who generated the funds used? Answer…taxpayers.

If we’re talking about the Pfzier vaccine they’re very high on letting eveyrone know they did it the good ol fashioned american way. On their own.

But if you guys want to argue for government healthcare to me i’m not against a good time.

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That’s what the ACA does. People who get subsidies are free to get a better health plan by chipping in some of their own money.

Pfizer chose not to take U.S. taxpayer money to help fund its coronavirus vaccine development, a move that CBS News’ Margaret Brennan pointed out on Sunday is a bit of a financial risk for the pharmaceutical giant.

CEO Albert Bourla admitted that it will indeed “be painful” if the vaccine fails, but “at the end of the day it’s only money” and the lack of taxpayer funds won’t “break our company.”

I didn’t hear that, but I missed part of it.