No-fly lists based on vaccination status?

[zantax]

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

Umm, you haven’t heard the news? The vaccinated can also transmit Covid.

At a much lower rate than those who are unvaccinated.

So at which rate threshold does it become problematic? Let me guess, somewhere above the vaccinated rate of transmission but below the unvaccinated rate? What happens when a vaccinated person sickens an unvaccinated person? Aren’t we back to an unvaccinated rate pdq?

As of now these things are true.

When exposed to the virus, the vaccinated are infected at a much much much lower rate than the unvaccinated.

If the vaccinated do get infected, they clear the virus quicker than the unvaccinated thus being a disease vector for a shorter period.

If the vaccinated do get infected they are much much much much much less likely to be severely ill than the unvaccinated.

I continue to not understand why people here who are vaccinated are arguing against it.

That’s because you find any mention of inconvenient facts to be some sort of attack. Fact is, the vaccinated can also spread Covid. That isn’t an attack on the vaccine, it’s just a simple fact. It gets tiresome typing out a disclaimer every time, I am vaccinated and recommend others also get vaccinated. You can just assume that going forward. How many times do I have to repeat it?

Then why continue to repeat something without the context that vaccinations overall prevent the spread and impact of the disease?

Yes, the vaccinated if infected can spread the virus but they do so at a much lower rate than the unvaccinated.

None of this is hard to understand.

Already answered, there is no reason I should need to type out a disclaimer every time for your comfort.

[zantax]

Sort of reminds me of the legalize pot crowd. I agree with them it should be legalized but they throw a fit if I don’t also pretend it won’t have a down side as well as an up side.

[Toll_Collector]

I’m done. I got the one shot J&J vaccine and I’m done. I will not be taking any other booster or vaccine for this blight. I’ve lived an absolute great life and have never struggled with money, shelter, or anything else. If this ends up taking me at some point, fine. But I’m not going to keep playing this game. I’m living my life.

[biggestal99]

@Toll_Collector

But the vax purists want to ignore this.

No one Is ignoring that fact.

Allan

[zantax]

@biggestal99

@Toll_Collector

But the vax purists want to ignore this.

No one Is ignoring that fact.

Allan

Of course they are, every time they point their fingers at the un vaxxed because they transmit while ignoring the vaxxed can also transmit.

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

Already answered, there is no reason I should need to type out a disclaimer every time for your comfort.

Yet… it is repeated over and over without proper context in the game of “CHECKMATE LIBS!!!” because our world has become so stupid that vaccination is a political thing as to whether people should get a relatively cheap preventative treatment for a virus that has caused a pandemic and has killed hundreds of thousands of people in this country alone over the past year.

it is quite silly

[WuWei]

@biggestal99

@WuWei

Are there vaccinated people having serious symptoms?

Of course. Some vaccinated are dead of covid. Some are hospitalized with severe infections.

The overwhelming majority of breakthroughs of the vaxxed are very minor to asymtomatic

You know that as well as I do.

So why the call out

Allan

Then

@biggestal99

VAxxed at worst a cold.

Is disinformation.

[Jezcoe]

@Toll_Collector

I’m done. I got the one shot J&J vaccine and I’m done. I will not be taking any other booster or vaccine for this blight. I’ve lived an absolute great life and have never struggled with money, shelter, or anything else. If this ends up taking me at some point, fine. But I’m not going to keep playing this game. I’m living my life.

Choose potential death over taking 15 minutes out your day to go to the local CVS and get a shot.

Makes sense to me.

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

@biggestal99

@Toll_Collector

But the vax purists want to ignore this.

No one Is ignoring that fact.

Allan

Of course they are, every time they point their fingers at the un vaxxed because they transmit while ignoring the vaxxed can also transmit.

At a much lower rate than the unvaccinated.

[biggestal99]

@zantax

Of course they are, every time they point their fingers at the un vaxxed because they transmit while ignoring the vaxxed can also transmit

Being vaxxed is better than being unvaxxed.

That is an irrefutable statement.

Allan

[zantax]

@Jezcoe

@zantax

Already answered, there is no reason I should need to type out a disclaimer every time for your comfort.

Yet… it is repeated over and over without proper context in the game of “CHECKMATE LIBS!!!” because our world has become so stupid that vaccination is a political thing as to whether people should get a relatively cheap preventative treatment for a virus that has caused a pandemic and has killed hundreds of thousands of people in this country alone over the past year.

it is quite silly

Again, sorry you don’t like facts mentioned if it doesn’t make the vaccine perfect, that would be a you problem as opposed to a me problem.

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

Already answered, there is no reason I should need to type out a disclaimer every time for your comfort.

Yet… it is repeated over and over without proper context in the game of “CHECKMATE LIBS!!!” because our world has become so stupid that vaccination is a political thing as to whether people should get a relatively cheap preventative treatment for a virus that has caused a pandemic and has killed hundreds of thousands of people in this country alone over the past year.

it is quite silly

Again, sorry you don’t like facts mentioned if it doesn’t make the vaccine perfect, that would be a you problem as opposed to a me problem.

I have never said that the vaccine is perfect.

it is better than the alternative.

Which is no vaccine.

[zantax]

@biggestal99

@zantax

Of course they are, every time they point their fingers at the un vaxxed because they transmit while ignoring the vaxxed can also transmit

Being vaxxed is better than being unvaxxed.

That is an irrefutable statement.

Allan

And? When did I say otherwise? I am vaxxed, the wife, my parents, my adult children, all vaxxed.

[PurpnGold]

@Toll_Collector

It is. But the vax purists want to ignore this.

Why is that data point important? What are you trying to convey by stating “vaccinated people can spread Covid”?

[zantax]

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

Already answered, there is no reason I should need to type out a disclaimer every time for your comfort.

Yet… it is repeated over and over without proper context in the game of “CHECKMATE LIBS!!!” because our world has become so stupid that vaccination is a political thing as to whether people should get a relatively cheap preventative treatment for a virus that has caused a pandemic and has killed hundreds of thousands of people in this country alone over the past year.

it is quite silly

Again, sorry you don’t like facts mentioned if it doesn’t make the vaccine perfect, that would be a you problem as opposed to a me problem.

I have never said that the vaccine is perfect.

it is better than the alternative.

Which is no vaccine.

Yet you get mad when it is mentioned the vaxxed can also transmit., like I said, that’s your problem, not mine.

[PurpnGold]

@zantax

And? When did I say otherwise? I am vaxxed, the wife, my parents, my adult children, all vaxxed.

Then there is literally no point in mentioning “vaxx people can spread Covid”

That statement, without context, is just anti vax propaganda.

[zantax]

@PurpnGold

@Toll_Collector

It is. But the vax purists want to ignore this.

Why is that data point important? What are you trying to convey by stating “vaccinated people can spread Covid”?

Because some people pretend it can’t happen, which can lead to bad outcomes.

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

@Jezcoe

@zantax

Already answered, there is no reason I should need to type out a disclaimer every time for your comfort.

Yet… it is repeated over and over without proper context in the game of “CHECKMATE LIBS!!!” because our world has become so stupid that vaccination is a political thing as to whether people should get a relatively cheap preventative treatment for a virus that has caused a pandemic and has killed hundreds of thousands of people in this country alone over the past year.

it is quite silly

Again, sorry you don’t like facts mentioned if it doesn’t make the vaccine perfect, that would be a you problem as opposed to a me problem.

I have never said that the vaccine is perfect.

it is better than the alternative.

Which is no vaccine.

Yet you get mad when it is mentioned the vaxxed can also transmit., like I said, that’s your problem, not mine.

I am not mad.

Mention it all you want. No one can stop you.

I will continue to add the additional information to provide context when it does happen.

[zantax]

@PurpnGold

@zantax

And? When did I say otherwise? I am vaxxed, the wife, my parents, my adult children, all vaxxed.

Then there is literally no point in mentioning “vaxx people can spread Covid”

That statement, without context, is just anti vax propaganda.

No, it’s just a simple fact.

[Jezcoe]

@zantax

@PurpnGold

@Toll_Collector

It is. But the vax purists want to ignore this.

Why is that data point important? What are you trying to convey by stating “vaccinated people can spread Covid”?

Because some people pretend it can’t happen, which can lead to bad outcomes.

It is better outcomes than the alternative.

Which is no vaccine.