I’m not attempting, or am I, playing a “gotcha” game. If you read the OP, you will understand what my motive is . . . i.e.:
If this no-excuse mail-in voting is not stopped in its tracks, and reversed, America’s way for peaceful change through free and fair elections will have been sabotaged and conquered by those types who now govern in other countries with an iron fist and the barrel of a gun, i.e., in Cuba, China, Russia, etc., where there is one-party authoritarian rule!
“Election fraud is rare, but it usually involves absentee or mail ballots, said Paul Gronke, a Reed College political scientist, who directs the Early Voting Information Center in Oregon. He cites what he calls a classic example of election fraud, a local official stealing votes by filling out absentee ballots. That was the case in Lincoln County, W.Va., where the sheriff and clerk pleaded guilty to distributing absentee ballots to unqualified voters and helping mark them during a 2010 Democratic primary”.
Bruce Bartman, 70, pleaded guilty to felony counts of perjury and unlawful voting last December after investigators discovered he had successfully cast a mail-in ballot for his mother, who died 12 years ago.
The fact is mail-in voting allows for all kinds of creative vote stealing.
Well, LucyLou, I can certainly understand one logical reason why someone who embraces mail-in voting, which has shown to open the door for various kinds of vote fraud and election rigging, would disagree that ending no-excuse mail-in voting would drastically cut down vote fraud carried out using mail-in ballots. And their motive would certainly not be working to end vote fraud and election rigging.
Of course, maybe you, LucyLou, have figured out a practical way to confirm, when counting no-excuse mail-in ballots, that the one who filled out a mailed-in ballot and made the choices thereon and sent it in, is the qualified and legitimate voter to whom that ballot was supposedly supplied. If that is the case, LucyLou, and you have figured out how to scrutinize and confirm the legitimacy of a mail-in ballot when counting these votes, please share with us the solution to that unsolved problem, which would go a long way in substantiating what your motive is for disagreeing.
JWK
The troubling truth about allowing no-excuse mail-in voting in one state is, when acts of corruption infect an electoral process in one jurisdiction “they transcend mere local concern and extend a contaminating influence into the national domain.” Justice DOUGLAS in United States v. Classic (1941)”.
"Rejected mail ballots make up a small percentage of votes — only about 3% of the 597,000 total mail ballots cast in the 2023 primary — but mean that thousands of citizens’ choices aren’t counted due to small errors. And small numbers of votes have decided the outcome of several Pennsylvania elections in recent years. "
Of course, there are no changes to be made which would confirm, when counting no-excuse mail-in ballots, that the one who filled out a mailed-in ballot and made the choices thereon and sent it in, is the qualified and legitimate voter, to whom that ballot was supposedly supplied.
And this is the Achilles’ heel with mail-in ballots. As reported in the 2005 Carter-Baker bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform, “absentee ballots” (i.e. mail-in ballots) remain the largest source of potential voter fraud”.
JWK
The scary truth about allowing no-excuse mail-in voting in one state is, when acts of corruption infect an electoral process in one jurisdiction “they transcend mere local concern and extend a contaminating influence into the national domain.” Justice DOUGLAS in United States v. Classic (1941)”.