And according to you guys the only option is confiscating firearms already in existence and prohibiting anyone else from purchasing new ones.
They can’t even get the illegal guns out of the cities we’re people are blowing each other away on a daily basis.
Exactly. Because the first steps you want are implemented. Then another shooting happens- then more drastic measures need to be taken. That’s the logical conclusion.
conan
March 16, 2019, 9:11pm
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ATF…they need to be disband immediately.
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madasheck:
So New Zealand’s prime minister said today that in the wake of the terrorist attack there, the gun laws of the country must be revised. “I can tell you right now our gun laws will change," she said. “Now is the time.” She vowed to spearhead an effort to change the country’s gun laws, which are already more stringent than they are in the United States, but not as strict as in Australia and much of Europe.
The second link on this page is a summary of NZ gun laws from the Library of Congress. Here’s a portion of the summary of the laws just to provide a little info.
The big question is if they can change more stringent laws, why can’t we toughen up ours? Makes no sense.
All persons in possession of a firearm must hold a license in accordance with the Arms Act 1983.[34 ] Unlicensed persons may, however, be in possession of a firearm or ammunition if they are under the immediate supervision of a license holder.[35 ] General rules relating to firearms licenses include the following:
Firearms license applicants are required to provide a photo, which is displayed on the license;[36 ]
License holders are required to produce their license when required to do so by a member of the Police;[37 ]
Persons in possession of a firearm must give their full name, address, and date of birth if requested by a member of the Police;[38 ]
License holders are required to notify the Police of a change of address (Persons holding an endorsement as described below must also inform the Police of the arrangements made for safe custody of the firearm during the shift to the new address);[39 ] and
A person must notify the Police if any firearm is lost or stolen.[40 ]
The Arms Act and associated regulations are silent regarding the ownership or possession of firearms for the purposes of self-defense. However, the Arms Code (a firearms safety manual and guidance document produced by the Police and the New Zealand Mountain Safety Council (NZMSC) and provided to license applicants) states the following:
Self-defence is not a valid reason to possess firearms. The law does not permit the possession of firearms ‘in anticipation’ that a firearm may need to be used in self-defence.
Citizens are justified in using force in self-defence in certain situations. The force that is justified will depend on the circumstances of the particular case. Every person is criminally responsible for any excessive use of force against another person.
A firearm is a lethal weapon. To justify the discharge of a firearm at another person the user must hold a honest belief that they or someone else is at imminent threat of death or grievous bodily harm.41 ]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/15/shootings-reported-mosques-christchurch-new-zealand/?utm_term=.e224ce688b16
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American culture’s view of the Second Amendment stops it from happening.
Nope, you guys are the one’s that say that’s the only way that works.
Let me know when legislation is proposed that doesn’t effect my right to keep and bear forearms.
WuWei
March 16, 2019, 9:18pm
193
How so?
PS: you know you can “quote” him without making me scroll so much? I have arthritis.
Says right there in the constitution I have a right to wear sleeveless shirts anywhere I want.
Well that’s completely untrue but thank you for playing.
Who is “The People”?
Nope its completely true, unless you want to prove me wrong.
I already have numerous times in the discussions we’ve had about addressing such things as mental health reporting, denying access to the mentally ill, felons, those convicted of spousal abuse etc.
Who is, “The People” and why do you keep avoiding answering?
Conan is spewing some crap about “freedom”.
When people are needlessly killed, what freedoms do they have? When do they get to grow old and enjoy retirement?
conan
March 16, 2019, 9:59pm
201
Then arm yourself and do your part to protect society.
Or does that thought scares you?
You’re right. Car crashes kill more people than nearly anything else in this country. Can we start suing car companies every time there’s a wreck? Where’s the freedom for people killed in car crashes?
Black people may feel differently than you.
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