My question for forum libs

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@WuWei

I’m beginning to see the problem. Define it please.

An ideology based on national identity to the extent that national identity has primacy over personal identity.

[conan]

@TheDoctorIsIn

All of the greatest achievements of humankind have come from cooperation and peace.

What would you rate moon landing?

[WuWei]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@TheDoctorIsIn

All of the greatest achievements of humankind have come from cooperation and peace.

All of the greatest tragedies of history have come from Nationalism and war.

! This claim is disputed

Notice

The claim that this claim is disputed is disputed.

[DMK]

@TheDoctorIsIn

Yes.

There are few things as rigidly absolute as nationalism as an ideology.

Go global. Go on a pilgrimage to a third world county.

Spread the love. If you survive, that is.

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@WuWei

I’m beginning to see the problem. Define it please.

An ideology based on national identity to the extent that national identity has primacy over personal identity.

From whence this definition?

[WuWei]

Great minds

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@conan

Or is that not the best for America?

Defining what is best for America is what politics is for.

Trying to re-frame people who disagree with you about what is best for America as against America is yet another example of the toxicity of nationalism.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@WuWei

From whence this definition?

It is my own.

[conan]

Interesting…are you saying Nationalist are collectivist?

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@WuWei

I’m beginning to see the problem. Define it please.

An ideology based on national identity to the extent that national identity has primacy over personal identity.

Yes yes…we know

“God and Country” to a lib is anathema.

[DMK]

@TheDoctorIsIn

An ideology based on national identity to the extent that national identity has primacy over personal identity.

Ahh. The hive mind.

I reject that.

100%

[TheDoctorIsIn]

Yes, absolutely.

That’s the whole point, and why this is all so funny to me.

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@WuWei

From whence this definition?

It is my own.

It is based on emotion and incorrect.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nationalism/#BasiConcNati

[WuWei]

@conan

Interesting…are you saying Nationalist are collectivist?

I will.

[conan]

But yet that is precisely what you attempted to do.

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

Yes, absolutely.

That’s the whole point, and why this is all so funny to me.

The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive. Different contexts.

[DMK]

@TheDoctorIsIn

toxicity of nationalism.

America and putting American’s first is toxic?

[conan]

I can see what you’re saying. But moment it is forced onto society it stops being voluntary.

Then we have dictatorship.

As far as I know…no one is forcing you to be nationalist.

[conan]

Keep reading.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

I’m referring to the first definition.

I don’t know why you think your link proves me wrong.