Moscow Terrorist Attack

Quite possible.

Might need money.

[quote=ā€œStriker840, post:92, topic:246679, full:trueā€] Putinā€™s forces are essentially in a standstill in Ukraine
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This was true last fall, they are currently grinding along slowly again once the ground froze.

All but for a smallish enclave that benefits from US air cover.

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Who cares who raised the subject?

You claimed ā€œlibsā€ were being dishonest that anyone was blaming Biden for the attack.

I pointed to two posts on here that were pretty much doing just that.

Doesnā€™t matter who raised the subject in the first place.

I agree, unfortunately we have no input into Moscows leaders.

This was true last fall, they are currently grinding along slowly again once the ground froze.
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But not like most everyone expected, almost everyone expected Russian troops to steamroll Ukraine, they didnā€™t, 2 years in and no real changes. Putin is getting embarrassed by Ukraineā€¦What/how will he recover face.

Damn, you post a lot of stupid stuff.

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Who cares who raised it?

Yā€™all started this ā– ā– ā– ā–  then want to wipe your crap covered shoe on the other side.

You pointed out two posts that were in response to a ā€œlibā€ making the first mention of Biden.

Stop with the dishonesty. We all can read and see what happened here.

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In every conflict there are people who side with the agressor.
They believe they will be spared.
That ass kissing never works.
Stalin even had a written promise from Hitler that he will spare Russia until he didnā€™t.
Biden needs to think about that.

The whole Obama created ISIS is stupid. The below sums up nicely my thoughts on this (waits for the usual cries of politifact = far left deep state funded site).

Its like the claims that the USA created Al-Qaida, sure we armed and trained the Mujahideen (from which veterans formed AQ) in their fight against the Soviet Union knowing elements were Islamic extremists. It was a choice between a bad choicr and a worse choice. The worst choice allowing the Soviet Union to use Afghanistan as a stepping stone into the Middle East.

No. That is wrong.

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Then explain why that is wrong and what is it yu knlw that everyone else doesnt.

Technically what became Al Queda was made out of Osamaā€™s outfit. They were never technically ā€œMujahadeen.ā€ They were Arab Legionaires who allied with the Mujahadeen. The Mujahadeen were Pashtos. Not Arabs. Elements of the Mujahadeen became the Taliban. Not Al Queda.

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AQ were Arabs. The muj are Persians.

Not everyone. You, but not everyone.

See.

I think we might be splitting hairs here though not saying you are wrong. The Mujhadeen received wide support from Muslims regardless of tbeir ethnicity (please no one start parsing the word ethnicity you all know what I mean).

Ultimately the weapons, training and whatever other aid the US and other nations gave to those fighting the Soviets was utilized by both AQ and the Taliban. Muslims who fought alongside the Mujahideen or were formal members both ended up serving with or aiding both AQ and the Taliban. Obviously not every Muslim.

As always you can be relied upon for good informative discussion with no word games or attempts at gotcha.

Still wrong. :pretzel:

Itā€™s not just Syria. Itā€™s Chehnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino Balkariaā€¦the North Caucusā€¦itā€™s always about the North Caucus.

Ethnicity played a big role with how all the Anti-Soviet groups evolved. Also the objectives were different between all the differing groups. For the Arab groups fighting they wanted a Pan-Islamic Jihad. It wasnā€™t just the Soviets they wanted to fight; they wanted to fight the Europeans and Americans too.

For the Pashto groups, the goal was to kick the Soviets out of Afghanistan. That was the entire goal.

It led to how they evolved in the 90s. The groups that became Al-Queda immediately turned their focus to ousting European and American interests in the Middle East. Osama himself immediately put focus on American deployments to Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War. The Pashtos really didnā€™t want any of that. It wasnā€™t any of their business. It later led to a civil war breaking out in Afghanistan itself as everyone was fighting both the remnant communist government and each other for control of the Afghan countryside.

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