Min Wage Hikes Hurting Business

[thinkingman]

@Jezcoe

@DougBH

@Jezcoe

So I guess we need a permanent underclass of low wage workers to keep down inflation.

“Ain’t nothing wrong with that. There’s nothing wrong with working retail, folding clothes for other people to buy. There is nothing wrong with preparing the food that your neighbors will eat. There is nothing wrong with driving the buses that take your family to work.”

Yes… and those people should be paid a wage that they can live on.

total ■■■■■■■■

it’s not an employer’s responsibility to make life easy for employees

turn off your tv and pay close attention to this thread tonight

[thinkingman]

@Cynic

As I linked earlier, appears they just served mediocre food. Try again,

“yelp” is hardly a legit source

[MidwestIndy]

@thinkingman

@MidwestIndy

@thinkingman

@MidwestIndy

There are more than a dozen different factors that go into running a profitable restaurant. Most of them within the control of the company, a few of them not.

Using labor rate as an excuse for closing is simply a poor excuse.

Starbucks sells cups of coffee for $5+ each for a product any consumer could make at home for less than a dollar. Someone mentioned what happens when people stop going to a restaurant because they had to increase their prices because of minimum wage hikes.

How about that restaurant start doing a better job controling their food costs which at poorly run restaurants go above 40% or more of revenue.

How about they prepare a product that people actually will pay the menu price for.

So many other controllable aspects but the easy one to complain about is labor.

perhaps you would have a different perspective if you actually ran a razor thin profit margin restaurant. or actually knew anything about it.

Given my family owns two of them, im fairly confident i do know.

And i dont need a different perspective, im quite familiar with restaurant profit margins. There are plenty of ways to maintain profit margins regardless of increasing payroll.

no there arent

you appear to get more info about business from AOC claptrap vs your brother in law

Yes there are. Lobby another personal insult towards me again, see if that helps.

[Jezcoe]

@thinkingman

@Jezcoe

@DougBH

@Jezcoe

So I guess we need a permanent underclass of low wage workers to keep down inflation.

“Ain’t nothing wrong with that. There’s nothing wrong with working retail, folding clothes for other people to buy. There is nothing wrong with preparing the food that your neighbors will eat. There is nothing wrong with driving the buses that take your family to work.”

Yes… and those people should be paid a wage that they can live on.

total ■■■■■■■■

it’s not an employer’s responsibility to make life easy for employees

turn off your tv and pay close attention to this thread tonight

Then we have a permanent underclass to keep inflation down and more people on public assistance to make ends meet.

[thinkingman]

@MidwestIndy

@thinkingman

@MidwestIndy

@thinkingman

@MidwestIndy

There are more than a dozen different factors that go into running a profitable restaurant. Most of them within the control of the company, a few of them not.

Using labor rate as an excuse for closing is simply a poor excuse.

Starbucks sells cups of coffee for $5+ each for a product any consumer could make at home for less than a dollar. Someone mentioned what happens when people stop going to a restaurant because they had to increase their prices because of minimum wage hikes.

How about that restaurant start doing a better job controling their food costs which at poorly run restaurants go above 40% or more of revenue.

How about they prepare a product that people actually will pay the menu price for.

So many other controllable aspects but the easy one to complain about is labor.

perhaps you would have a different perspective if you actually ran a razor thin profit margin restaurant. or actually knew anything about it.

Given my family owns two of them, im fairly confident i do know.

And i dont need a different perspective, im quite familiar with restaurant profit margins. There are plenty of ways to maintain profit margins regardless of increasing payroll.

no there arent

you appear to get more info about business from AOC claptrap vs your brother in law

Yes there are. Lobby another personal insult towards me again, see if that helps.

it’s what she believes. so, it appears you get that info

that was not meant to insult

[Cynic]

Actually they are pretty reliable for food, you should try it while traveling. Or even to find new spots at home. But then again, you are someone who thinks landline phone polls are relevant… so…

[thinkingman]

@Jezcoe

@thinkingman

@Jezcoe

@DougBH

@Jezcoe

So I guess we need a permanent underclass of low wage workers to keep down inflation.

“Ain’t nothing wrong with that. There’s nothing wrong with working retail, folding clothes for other people to buy. There is nothing wrong with preparing the food that your neighbors will eat. There is nothing wrong with driving the buses that take your family to work.”

Yes… and those people should be paid a wage that they can live on.

total ■■■■■■■■

it’s not an employer’s responsibility to make life easy for employees

turn off your tv and pay close attention to this thread tonight

Then we have a permanent underclass to keep inflation down and more people on public assistance to make ends meet.

life isnt easy. if you need welfare to make ends meet and you are able and willing then it’s time to get more skills

[Jezcoe]

Great. Is there a government program that will help get those skills?

[dantes]

Profound Thinkingman. So profound.

[PurpnGold]

@thinkingman

life isnt easy. if you need welfare to make ends meet and you are able and willing then it’s time to get more skills

Do you believe in having a minimum wage at all?

[Jezcoe]

@PurpnGold

@thinkingman

life isnt easy. if you need welfare to make ends meet and you are able and willing then it’s time to get more skills

Do you believe in having a minimum wage at all?

The Government should not stand in the way of the worker selling their labor for the lowest price that they can bear.

Or something

[thinkingman]

@Cynic

Actually they are pretty reliable for food, you should try it while traveling. Or even to find new spots at home. But then again, you are someone who thinks landline phone polls are relevant… so…

it’s an internet bitch site, for pissed of customers. people who are happy with dining experience likely do not vent about how much they enjoyed it vs those who arent

and theres always someone not happy

[thinkingman]

@PurpnGold

@thinkingman

life isnt easy. if you need welfare to make ends meet and you are able and willing then it’s time to get more skills

Do you believe in having a minimum wage at all?

nope

want to explore that logic?

[CoachMcGuirk]

Also from the Vigdor/Roberts podcast: The restaurant industry is doing fine. Restaurants overall in Seattle are hardly affected. If labor gets prohibitively expensive, there are many ways that restaurants can reduce labor–buy vegetables that are already chopped elsewhere (thus removing the need for a prep cook on premises and outsourcing that labor to another location), or shift from table service to counter service (shifting the cost of serving and bussing tables from a paid laborer to a free source of labor).

Jacob Vigdor comments seem to suggest that a restaurant owner who blames the minimum wage for his failure is just pointing his frustration at a convenient scapegoat.

Vigdor also quotes a study that found, “Restaurants with low Yelp reviews were more likely to go out of business after minimum wage increases went into effect.”

[Jezcoe]

@CoachMcGuirk

Also from the Vigdor/Roberts podcast: The restaurant industry is doing fine. Restaurants overall in Seattle are hardly affected. If labor gets prohibitively expensive, there are many ways that restaurants can reduce labor–buy vegetables that are already chopped elsewhere (thus removing the need for a prep cook on premises and outsourcing that labor to another location), or shift from table service to counter service (shifting the cost of serving and bussing tables from a paid laborer to a free source of labor).

Jacob Vigdor comments seem to suggest that a restaurant owner who blames the minimum wage for his failure is just pointing his frustration at a convenient scapegoat.

Blaming that they are paying people too much is oh so weird an argument also.

[calirepub]

I wonder what these people will do once they’re replaced by robots. If the minimum wage gets too high these “workers” might find themselves unable to find a job.

[CoachMcGuirk]

@calirepub

I wonder what these people will do once they’re replaced by robots. If the minimum wage gets too high these “workers” might find themselves unable to find a job.

Robots are coming for every job they can take.

[calirepub]

@CoachMcGuirk

@calirepub

I wonder what these people will do once they’re replaced by robots. If the minimum wage gets too high these “workers” might find themselves unable to find a job.

Robots are coming for every job they can take.

What will all those workers do once they’re obsolete?

[Cynic]

I bet they thought the same way

Even grade school kids know how to navigate reviews now… all of that is irrelevant with a significant number, and if you are being measured against your peers.

The funny part is your whole thread seems to be prompted based on how “long they existed”, as if that matters, with not even one mention about them actually being highly rated…

[MidwestIndy]

@thinkingman

it’s what she believes. so, it appears you get that info

that was not meant to insult

I dont give a whip about what AOC says. She isnt my representative, nor does she speak for me.

But perhaps you would like to provide to everyone here some quotes of AOC talking about restaurant operations and how one can maintain its profitability.

Then you can go ahead and attribute my knowledge on the subject to her thinking. Until then go on being the non thinking man.