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that needs to be changed if true

It’s rhetoric. Do you understand what rhetoric is?

Actually it has everything to do with it. Well, a lot.

Reagan himself could have made this post in his later days.

Well at least you have learned how to spell maths correctly. The correct spelling is maths.

The sic in that post should have been enclosed in brackets. It’s funny when people act superior and shoot themselves in the foot.

fascinating

you can stop trying to poke me over Reagan now. i dont care

Maybe you don’t now what I mean. Reagan was surprised to learn of his own administration’s illegal policies. He used the phrase ‘if true, and apparently it is’ IIRC.

what has the clinton and obama administration done to fix it?

They didn’t break it. What did trump do? You know, the one who is complaining.

No, he didn’t, the courts did.

This must be obtuse day. You’re the second one to say that. The Reagan admin was responsible. No need to over complicate things.

It’s not complicated, a fourth grader could grasp it. It was court ordered, he didn’t have a choice.

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Love the rationalizations. Lol.

Here you go:

Ronald Reagan, the 40th president of the United States, is well known for his fiscal policies that stimulated economic growth, cut inflation and pulled America out of a recession (Cannon, 2017). What Reagan is not readily known for is the long term effect of a law he repealed that essentially deinstitutionalized mentally ill patients at the federal level (Roberts, 2013). While some of his fiscal policies had a positive effect on the U.S. economy during the 1980s, his decision to deinstitutionalize mentally ill patients had a much more deleterious effect on these patients, their communities, and the agencies that were left to contend with these individuals’ mental health issues (Honberg, 2015).

The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (OBRA) is the statute that repealed President Carter’s Mental Health Systems Act which was supposed to continue federal funding for mental health programs. Reagan gave the appearance of making a consequentialist ethical decision because he presented his repeal of OBRA as an action that would best serve American society and do more good than harm as a result. The OBRA gave mental patients a choice to seek treatment outside of a mental institution, an option to seek treatment at clinics at the state level, and the freedom to administer their own medication (PSY533, 2017) (Pan, 2013). However, Reagan was hasty in taking unsound advice to repeal OBRA because his real motive was to cut the federal budget (Roberts, 2013). He was a leader who “never exhibited any interest in the need for research or better treatment for serious mental illness” (Torrey, 2017).

To be an ethical leader, one must attempt to gather as much knowledge as possible when making decisions, especially if one has the power to affect so many lives (Toffler, 2009). The mentally ill are amongst the most vulnerable populations in society because most are unable to make sound decisions regarding their own care due to their mental state. The consequences of Reagan’s social policy can be measured by the fact that today one-third of the homeless population are suffering from severe mental illness which puts a burden on police departments, hospitals and the penal system which lack the training and resources to deal with psychiatric emergencies (Honberg, 2015). Reagan’s unethical choice to end federal funding for mental health programs was driven by the desire to cut the budget. As a result, he did much more harm than good (PSY533, 2017).

For the 4th grader you brought up:

Ronald Reagan, the 40th president of the United States, is well known for his fiscal policies that stimulated economic growth, cut inflation and pulled America out of a recession (Cannon, 2017). What Reagan is not readily known for is the long term effect of a law he repealed that essentially deinstitutionalized mentally ill patients at the federal level (Roberts, 2013). While some of his fiscal policies had a positive effect on the U.S. economy during the 1980s, his decision to deinstitutionalize mentally ill patients had a much more deleterious effect on these patients, their communities, and the agencies that were left to contend with these individuals’ mental health issues (Honberg, 2015).

The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (OBRA) is the statute that repealed President Carter’s Mental Health Systems Act which was supposed to continue federal funding for mental health programs. Reagan gave the appearance of making a consequentialist ethical decision because he presented his repeal of OBRA as an action that would best serve American society and do more good than harm as a result. The OBRA gave mental patients a choice to seek treatment outside of a mental institution, an option to seek treatment at clinics at the state level, and the freedom to administer their own medication (PSY533, 2017) (Pan, 2013). However, Reagan was hasty in taking unsound advice to repeal OBRA because his real motive was to cut the federal budget (Roberts, 2013). He was a leader who “never exhibited any interest in the need for research or better treatment for serious mental illness” (Torrey, 2017).

To be an ethical leader, one must attempt to gather as much knowledge as possible when making decisions, especially if one has the power to affect so many lives (Toffler, 2009). The mentally ill are amongst the most vulnerable populations in society because most are unable to make sound decisions regarding their own care due to their mental state. The consequences of Reagan’s social policy can be measured by the fact that today one-third of the homeless population are suffering from severe mental illness which puts a burden on police departments, hospitals and the penal system which lack the training and resources to deal with psychiatric emergencies (Honberg, 2015). Reagan’s unethical choice to end federal funding for mental health programs was driven by the desire to cut the budget. As a result, he did much more harm than good (PSY533, 2017).

Not the same things, by all means say he didn’t spend as much on mental health as Carter wanted to but de-institutionalization was court mandated which is what you tried to claim he was responsible for.

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Yes I do, and that adage is not rhetorical, it’s absolutely true.

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Math isn’t even a word, it’s an abbreviation. Of course being Australian, half of your conversational words are abbreviations, so you probably didn’t know that. :stuck_out_tongue:

That accusation against Reagan is one of the favorite myths to ever be perpetuated by liberals. They pulled it out of a hat back then and have hung onto it like super glue since. I bet liberals under 30 have no idea that it is completely false because they have heard it their entire lives. It’s right up there with the Columbus discovered America myth that was taught in public schools for 100 years. :wink: