Louis Gohmert tests positive for covid19

[WildRose]

It didn’t take long to be obvious you hadn’t read it.

There studies are on people working directly with CCPV patients in close proximity, close, intimate contact, and using N95 and 12-16 layer surgical masks.

It also states plainly they have very little data on the use of face masks or goggles.

It also concludes with stating there still isn’t nearly enough known about this virus or similar viruses (SARS Like) to recommend a specific set of protocols.

It also doesn’t control for the other factors like other PPE and good hygiene.

This however is very basic science, the eyes are one of the 3 direct pathways to the respiratory tract.

[WildRose]

That isn’t shown by your study since it doesnt’ control for it.

[Borgia_dude]

@WildRose

It didn’t take long to be obvious you hadn’t read it.

There studies are on people working directly with CCPV patients in close proximity, close, intimate contact, and using N95 and 12-16 layer surgical masks.

It also states plainly they have very little data on the use of face masks or goggles.

It also concludes with stating there still isn’t nearly enough known about this virus or similar viruses (SARS Like) to recommend a specific set of protocols.

It also doesn’t control for the other factors like other PPE and good hygiene.

This however is very basic science, the eyes are one of the 3 direct pathways to the respiratory tract.

Yet for all these limitations, they still felt confident concluding based on the data they had…

These data also suggest that wearing face masks protects people (both health-care workers and the general public) against infection by these coronaviruses, and that eye protection could confer additional benefit.

[Borgia_dude]

@WildRose

That isn’t shown by your study since it doesnt’ control for it.

This eye protection gig you are on is odd. Studies have shown masks along reduce infection rate and reduce severity of infection via reducing loading.

That you can’t admit this is weird and counter to common sense. Yes, eyes are an infection vector. As are mouth and nose. Reducing efficacy of that vector of two of the three clearly is helpful, especially in non-healthcare settings where Covid is more intermittent (cough, sneeze…)

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@WildRose

Even wearing an N95 without eye protection cannot prevent you from becoming infected

You are safer with a mask on than without one.

Allan

You are fooling yourself … and everyone else who listens to you.

[WildRose]

Yes it’s so conclusive they give a nebulous statement and cannot show to what degree it’s going to protect the average person particularly since we can’t get the same masks and are not working in a close contact environment with infected patients on a daily basis.

Nor does it in any way control for other PPP, or attention to sanitary procedures and again, they have very little data on the wearing of eye protection and didn’t control for it.

The whole thing was a waste of time, you should have read it before posting it because it doesn’t support you position.

[Borgia_dude]

@WildRose

Yes it’s so conclusive they give a nebulous statement and cannot show to what degree it’s going to protect the average person particularly since we can’t get the same masks and are not working in a close contact environment with infected patients on a daily basis.

Nor does it in any way control for other PPP, or attention to sanitary procedures and again, they have very little data on the wearing of eye protection and didn’t control for it.

The whole thing was a waste of time, you should have read it before posting it because it doesn’t support you position.

Your spin on the study is noted.

[WildRose]

Not spin, fact.

Unlike you I actually read it.

[biggestal99]

@WildRose

Natural selection would be everyone going maskless and going on with their lives.

We’d end up with a much stronger and more gene pool when it finished culling the population.

Virtually everything we do today in medicine and public health is to prevent natural selection.

Letting human beings die when they get older is not natural selection.

Allan

[Borgia_dude]

@WildRose

Not spin, fact.

Unlike you I actually read it.

Yeah, you read it in less than 4 minutes.

[biggestal99]

@Samm

You are fooling yourself … and everyone else who listens to you

Nope. Wearing masks helps prevent people from getting covid-19. We will just agree to disagree on this subject.

Allan

[WildRose]

Survival of the Fittest is, “Natural Selection”.

Simply allowing the old and non productive to die is where we seriously get into Eugenics and Social Darwinism.

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@WildRose

Natural selection would be everyone going maskless and going on with their lives.

We’d end up with a much stronger and more gene pool when it finished culling the population.

Virtually everything we do today in medicine and public health is to prevent natural selection.

Letting human beings die when they get older is not natural selection.

Allan

Young people die from the virus too.

[WildRose]

I never made such a claim. Stop attributing things to me I never said, it’s trolling.

[Borgia_dude]

@WildRose

In ever made such a claim. Stop attributing things to me I never said, it’s trolling.

I posted the study. Four minutes later you were critiquing it.

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@Samm

You are fooling yourself … and everyone else who listens to you

Nope. Wearing masks helps prevent people from getting covid-19. We will just agree to disagree on this subject.

Allan

Yes … they help prevent other people from getting the virus from you. But if you want to feel safe in the crowd by wearing a mask, you go right ahead. Maybe when all is said and done some researcher will discover that that belief produces the equivalent of a placebo effect.

[WildRose]

Stop saying things we both know to be fabrications.

You posted the study at 4:17.

At 4:23 I pointed out you hadn’t read it.

Stop it.

[biggestal99]

@Samm

Yes … they help prevent other people from getting the virus from you. But if you want to feel safe in the crowd by wearing a mask, you go right ahead.

So if everyone wears a mask, you have a better chance?

Lol. Hence mandatory mask orders.

I am on the subway in New York City. everyone is wearing a mask properly. Safe of unsafe?

Now look at the Gohmert situation. Not wearing a mask, a lot of people around him aren’t wearing masks. Safe of unsafe?

Gee is it really that simple.

Allan

[WildRose]

Unless you’re wearing eye protection, gloves, changing clothes after every exposure and practicing very good hygiene you’re not “safe”.

You are reducing your risk to some degree but nobody can say how much or how effectively.

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@Samm

Yes … they help prevent other people from getting the virus from you. But if you want to feel safe in the crowd by wearing a mask, you go right ahead.

So if everyone wears a mask, you have a better chance?

Lol. Hence mandatory mask orders.

I am on the subway in New York City. everyone is wearing a mask properly. Safe of unsafe?

Now look at the Gohmert situation. Not wearing a mask, a lot of people around him aren’t wearing masks. Safe of unsafe?

Gee is it really that simple.

Allan

No disagreement there. I have said that all along. But the fact remains, if you don’t wear a mask and everyone else is, you are at no greater risk than if you wore a mask too.