Safiel
June 9, 2020, 12:28am
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While the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of the Army say they are just “considering” it, after their previous refusal to consider the matter, this switch can pretty much be construed as the first step in actually changing the names.
Here are the ten bases:
Camp Beauregard near Pineville, Louisiana , named for Louisiana native and Confederate General Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard [1]
Fort Benning , near Columbus, Georgia , named after Henry L. Benning , a brigadier general in the Confederate States Army during the Civil War [2] [3]
Fort Bragg in North Carolina, named for Confederate General Braxton Bragg
Fort Gordon near Grovetown, Georgia , named in honor of John Brown Gordon , who was a major general in the Confederate army, a Georgia governor, a U.S. senator, and a businessman
Fort A.P. Hill near Bowling Green, Virginia , named for Virginia native and Confederate Lieutenant General A. P. Hill [4]
Fort Hood in Killeen, Texas , named after Confederate General John Bell Hood who is best known for commanding the Texas Brigade during the American Civil War
Fort Lee in Prince George County, Virginia , named for Confederate General Robert E. Lee [5]
Fort Pickett near Blackstone, Virginia , named for the United States Army officer and Confederate General George Pickett
Fort Polk near Leesville, Louisiana , named in honor of the Right Reverend Leonidas Polk , the first Episcopal Bishop of the Diocese of Louisiana , and a distinguished Confederate General in the American Civil War
Fort Rucker in Dale County, Alabama , named for a Confederate General Edmund Rucker
I think we could start the process by changing Fort Bragg to Fort Alvin C. York. York was a member of the 82nd Airborne Division, which is stationed at Fort Bragg.
Fort Polk could keep its name, but be rededicated to President James K. Polk in recognition of his wartime presidency during the Mexican War.
I would change Fort Lee to Fort Grant, but there already was a Fort Grant, so that kind of screws that up. Maybe change it to Fort Patton after General George S. Patton.
Somebody better start working on the name list.
Safiel
June 9, 2020, 12:31am
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Polk was a slaveholder, that won’t work. Nice try to cut down on the paperwork, but no go.
Good shouldn’t name bases after losers.
Safiel
June 9, 2020, 12:35am
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Found a good “Polk” to rededicate Fort Polk to.
James Hilliard Polk (December 13, 1911 – February 18, 1992) was a United States Army four-star general who served as Commander in Chief, United States Army Europe from 1967 to 1971. He was one of the last senior commanders in the army to have served in the horse cavalry.
Polk was born at Camp McGraw in Batangas in the Philippines on December 13, 1911, to Colonel Harding Polk, and the former Esther Fleming.
Polk graduated from the United States Military Academy in 1933 and was commissioned in ...
Among other things, Commander in Chief, United States Army Europe.
Safiel:
Found a good “Polk” to rededicate Fort Polk to.
James H. Polk - Wikipedia
Among other things, Commander in Chief, United States Army Europe.
What about Richard Winters he could be a good candidate.
WuWei
June 9, 2020, 1:30am
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I’d like to see a break in tradition and name them after MOH holders. In reverse chronological order.
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I’d like to see the same naming convention for Navy surface ships.
Navy MOH awardees, Silver Star, sailors cited for heroism. No more politicians, living or dead especilly ones who were never in the military.
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Safiel:
While the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of the Army say they are just “considering” it, after their previous refusal to consider the matter, this switch can pretty much be construed as the first step in actually changing the names.
Here are the ten bases:
Camp Beauregard near Pineville, Louisiana , named for Louisiana native and Confederate General Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard [1]
Fort Benning , near Columbus, Georgia , named after Henry L. Benning , a brigadier general in the Confederate States Army during the Civil War [2] [3]
Fort Bragg in North Carolina, named for Confederate General Braxton Bragg
Fort Gordon near Grovetown, Georgia , named in honor of John Brown Gordon , who was a major general in the Confederate army, a Georgia governor, a U.S. senator, and a businessman
Fort A.P. Hill near Bowling Green, Virginia , named for Virginia native and Confederate Lieutenant General A. P. Hill [4]
Fort Hood in Killeen, Texas , named after Confederate General John Bell Hood who is best known for commanding the Texas Brigade during the American Civil War
Fort Lee in Prince George County, Virginia , named for Confederate General Robert E. Lee [5]
Fort Pickett near Blackstone, Virginia , named for the United States Army officer and Confederate General George Pickett
Fort Polk near Leesville, Louisiana , named in honor of the Right Reverend Leonidas Polk , the first Episcopal Bishop of the Diocese of Louisiana , and a distinguished Confederate General in the American Civil War
Fort Rucker in Dale County, Alabama , named for a Confederate General Edmund Rucker
I think we could start the process by changing Fort Bragg to Fort Alvin C. York. York was a member of the 82nd Airborne Division, which is stationed at Fort Bragg.
Fort Polk could keep its name, but be rededicated to President James K. Polk in recognition of his wartime presidency during the Mexican War.
I would change Fort Lee to Fort Grant, but there already was a Fort Grant, so that kind of screws that up. Maybe change it to Fort Patton after General George S. Patton.
Somebody better start working on the name list.
There’s already been a Patton’s Fort
Everything I served in will exist no more.
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WuWei
June 9, 2020, 3:07am
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Me too, or already doesn’t.
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I guess @Safiel isn’t crapping on Engineer Country, so I got that going for me, which is nice.
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Safiel
June 9, 2020, 3:17am
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I ain’t crapping on anyone or anything. Just reporting on what was just announced in the news.
Kind of inevitable actually.
And it is TRUMP’s men that are proposing the change, not me.
It only serves to further my legend anyway.
AZslim
June 9, 2020, 5:36am
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Safiel:
While the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of the Army say they are just “considering” it, after their previous refusal to consider the matter, this switch can pretty much be construed as the first step in actually changing the names.
Here are the ten bases:
Camp Beauregard near Pineville, Louisiana , named for Louisiana native and Confederate General Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard [1]
Fort Benning , near Columbus, Georgia , named after Henry L. Benning , a brigadier general in the Confederate States Army during the Civil War [2] [3]
Fort Bragg in North Carolina, named for Confederate General Braxton Bragg
Fort Gordon near Grovetown, Georgia , named in honor of John Brown Gordon , who was a major general in the Confederate army, a Georgia governor, a U.S. senator, and a businessman
Fort A.P. Hill near Bowling Green, Virginia , named for Virginia native and Confederate Lieutenant General A. P. Hill [4]
Fort Hood in Killeen, Texas , named after Confederate General John Bell Hood who is best known for commanding the Texas Brigade during the American Civil War
Fort Lee in Prince George County, Virginia , named for Confederate General Robert E. Lee [5]
Fort Pickett near Blackstone, Virginia , named for the United States Army officer and Confederate General George Pickett
Fort Polk near Leesville, Louisiana , named in honor of the Right Reverend Leonidas Polk , the first Episcopal Bishop of the Diocese of Louisiana , and a distinguished Confederate General in the American Civil War
Fort Rucker in Dale County, Alabama , named for a Confederate General Edmund Rucker
I think we could start the process by changing Fort Bragg to Fort Alvin C. York. York was a member of the 82nd Airborne Division, which is stationed at Fort Bragg.
Fort Polk could keep its name, but be rededicated to President James K. Polk in recognition of his wartime presidency during the Mexican War.
I would change Fort Lee to Fort Grant, but there already was a Fort Grant, so that kind of screws that up. Maybe change it to Fort Patton after General George S. Patton.
Somebody better start working on the name list.
Sargent York was in WW I. The 82nd wasn’t airborne yet.
simple and no one could possibly suggest they don’t deserve it.
The Confederate names were probably a result of pressure to placate Southern Democrats in the Jim Crow era. I have no problem with changing the names.
I agree that World War II generals such as Patton, Eisenhower, and Marshal are possible alternatives.
African-Americans who lead the fight for the Union are other possible alternatives. Here is a list that includes several possibilities:
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Personally I like the idea of celebrating brave Black Republicans who defeated racist Democrats who were literately fighting to tear the country apart. That is what happened during the Civil War; let’s see what fact-checkers do with that narrative.
I would have no problem kneeling during the Battle Hymn of the Republic:
Curious as to the constant references here to party affiliation as though it should mean something.
I believe the Civil War was 160ish years ago.
This is like a baseball fan talking about the greatness of the Cincinnati Red Stockings versus the Mutuals of New York as a reason why the Reds are a better franchise than the Yankees.
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This is very likely going to happen.
