Let's Get Some Things Straight on Abortion

Borgia_dude · 2020-02-21T15:56:13.230Z

Colorado has also allowed pharmacists to prescribe birth control pills themselves (with some training). No need to go to a doctor.

Do we all support that?

mobulis · 2020-02-21T16:06:21.734Z

Optrader:

adroit:

gooddad409:

Over 60 MILLION unborn babies have been killed/murdered(since roe). And you find that amusing???

Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

Optrader · 2020-02-21T16:38:51.139Z

adroit:

Optrader:

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you wouldn’t support a policy that has empirically demonstrated to reduce abortions? How interesting.

Would you support a policy that allows all eligible people to get a gun at taxpayer expense to the tune of paying individuals $500 dollars to do so? I’m betting you wouldn’t…

Optrader · 2020-02-21T16:39:38.201Z

mobulis:

Optrader:

adroit:

gooddad409:

Over 60 MILLION unborn babies have been killed/murdered(since roe). And you find that amusing???

Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

I value people being responsible for their own choices.

mobulis · 2020-02-21T16:40:36.372Z

Optrader:

mobulis:

Optrader:

adroit:

gooddad409:

Over 60 MILLION unborn babies have been killed/murdered(since roe). And you find that amusing???

Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

I value people being responsible for their own choices.

Nope, you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

Borgia_dude · 2020-02-21T16:43:32.333Z

mobulis:

Optrader:

mobulis:

Optrader:

adroit:

gooddad409:

Over 60 MILLION unborn babies have been killed/murdered(since roe). And you find that amusing???

Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

I value people being responsible for their own choices.

Nope, you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

They aren’t willing to compromise their political values to save human life.

Optrader · 2020-02-21T16:46:22.268Z

Borgia_dude:

mobulis:

Optrader:

mobulis:

Optrader:

adroit:

gooddad409:

Over 60 MILLION unborn babies have been killed/murdered(since roe). And you find that amusing???

Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

I value people being responsible for their own choices.

Nope, you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

They aren’t willing to compromise their political values to save human life.

Gosh, another liberalism in a nut shell in another thread: My actions are someone else’s fault and responsibility.

mobulis · 2020-02-21T16:47:43.112Z

Optrader:

Borgia_dude:

mobulis:

Optrader:

mobulis:

Optrader:

adroit:

gooddad409:

Over 60 MILLION unborn babies have been killed/murdered(since roe). And you find that amusing???

Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

I value people being responsible for their own choices.

Nope, you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

They aren’t willing to compromise their political values to save human life.

Gosh, another liberalism in a nut shell in another thread: My actions are someone else’s fault and responsibility.

Do you want to stop abortions or not?

Borgia_dude · 2020-02-21T16:48:39.215Z

Optrader:

Borgia_dude:

mobulis:

Optrader:

mobulis:

Optrader:

adroit:

gooddad409:

Over 60 MILLION unborn babies have been killed/murdered(since roe). And you find that amusing???

Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

I value people being responsible for their own choices.

Nope, you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

They aren’t willing to compromise their political values to save human life.

Gosh, another liberalism in a nut shell in another thread: My actions are someone else’s fault and responsibility.

Not saying anything is your fault. You are not responsible for any abortions.

On solutions, your politics are more important than those babies though.

Optrader · 2020-02-21T16:50:37.771Z

Borgia_dude:

Optrader:

Borgia_dude:

mobulis:

Optrader:

mobulis:

Optrader:

adroit:

gooddad409:

Over 60 MILLION unborn babies have been killed/murdered(since roe). And you find that amusing???

Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

I value people being responsible for their own choices.

Nope, you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

They aren’t willing to compromise their political values to save human life.

Gosh, another liberalism in a nut shell in another thread: My actions are someone else’s fault and responsibility.

Not saying anything is your fault. You are not responsible for any abortions.

On solutions, your politics are more important than those babies though.

Here’s a solution too. Take responsibility for your own decisions and actions. I know it’s a foreign concept to you guys.

Optrader · 2020-02-21T16:54:28.371Z

Borgia_dude:

Optrader:

Borgia_dude:

mobulis:

Optrader:

mobulis:

Optrader:

adroit:

gooddad409:

Over 60 MILLION unborn babies have been killed/murdered(since roe). And you find that amusing???

Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

I value people being responsible for their own choices.

Nope, you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

They aren’t willing to compromise their political values to save human life.

Gosh, another liberalism in a nut shell in another thread: My actions are someone else’s fault and responsibility.

Not saying anything is your fault. You are not responsible for any abortions.

On solutions, your politics are more important than those babies though.

How about you? You support tax payer funded guns for all eligible people. 500.00 bucks a piece? After all, it is my constitutional RIGHT to carry a gun and Joe Biden did say that no one should be denied their constitutional rights because they don’t have the money to pay for it…

Borgia_dude · 2020-02-21T16:56:00.092Z

Optrader:

Borgia_dude:

Optrader:

Borgia_dude:

mobulis:

Optrader:

mobulis:

Optrader:

adroit:

gooddad409:

Over 60 MILLION unborn babies have been killed/murdered(since roe). And you find that amusing???

Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

I value people being responsible for their own choices.

Nope, you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

They aren’t willing to compromise their political values to save human life.

Gosh, another liberalism in a nut shell in another thread: My actions are someone else’s fault and responsibility.

Not saying anything is your fault. You are not responsible for any abortions.

On solutions, your politics are more important than those babies though.

Here’s a solution too. Take responsibility for your own decisions and actions. I know it’s a foreign concept to you guys.

Agreed. Everyone should and we May get there at some point I think the future.

In the meantime, we deal with people who make imperfect decisions which result in pregnancies and abortions.

Can we create some tax-funded programs to alleviate the abortions and save some babies?

mobulis · 2020-02-21T16:58:39.290Z

Optrader:

Borgia_dude:

Optrader:

Borgia_dude:

mobulis:

Optrader:

mobulis:

Optrader:

adroit:

gooddad409:

Over 60 MILLION unborn babies have been killed/murdered(since roe). And you find that amusing???

Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

I value people being responsible for their own choices.

Nope, you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

They aren’t willing to compromise their political values to save human life.

Gosh, another liberalism in a nut shell in another thread: My actions are someone else’s fault and responsibility.

Not saying anything is your fault. You are not responsible for any abortions.

On solutions, your politics are more important than those babies though.

How about you? You support tax payer funded guns for all eligible people. 500.00 bucks a piece? After all, it is my constitutional RIGHT to carry a gun and Joe Biden did say that no one should be denied their constitutional rights because they don’t have the money to pay for it…

Do you want to stop abortions yes or no?

Borgia_dude · 2020-02-21T17:00:32.514Z

Optrader:

Borgia_dude:

Optrader:

Borgia_dude:

mobulis:

Optrader:

mobulis:

Optrader:

adroit:

gooddad409:

Over 60 MILLION unborn babies have been killed/murdered(since roe). And you find that amusing???

Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

I value people being responsible for their own choices.

Nope, you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

They aren’t willing to compromise their political values to save human life.

Gosh, another liberalism in a nut shell in another thread: My actions are someone else’s fault and responsibility.

Not saying anything is your fault. You are not responsible for any abortions.

On solutions, your politics are more important than those babies though.

How about you? You support tax payer funded guns for all eligible people. 500.00 bucks a piece? After all, it is my constitutional RIGHT to carry a gun and Joe Biden did say that no one should be denied their constitutional rights because they don’t have the money to pay for it…

We are trying to solve or reduce a problem, right? Reducing or eliminating abortions.

Proliferation of guns doesn’t reduce the deaths of babies through abortion. At least I don’t see how, perhaps you can explain.

Guvnah · 2020-02-21T17:10:39.777Z

gooddad409:

And you find that amusing???

Their pretense of amusement is just a matter of deceiving themselves as they wrestle with the internal conflict they have with their conscience.

I believe all people have good in them, and it is that goodness within themselves that reminds them of the abject evil that abortion is. They all know it. They just try to shout down their own hearts that are crying out inside of them.

Guvnah · 2020-02-21T17:12:40.818Z

Borgia_dude:

The Christian position on “ensoulment” seems all over the place.

Really?

I only see libs raise it.

mobulis · 2020-02-21T17:13:35.480Z

Guvnah:

gooddad409:

And you find that amusing???

Their pretense of amusement is just a matter of deceiving themselves as they wrestle with the internal conflict they have with their conscience.

I believe all people have good in them, and it is that goodness within themselves that reminds them of the abject evil that abortion is. They all know it. They just try to shout down their own hearts that are crying out inside of them.

Sorry but nope. You cons want abortion stopped but only as long as it doesn’t cost you any money.

Optrader · 2020-02-21T17:18:37.300Z

Borgia_dude:

Optrader:

Borgia_dude:

Optrader:

Borgia_dude:

mobulis:

Optrader:

mobulis:

Optrader:

adroit:

gooddad409:

Over 60 MILLION unborn babies have been killed/murdered(since roe). And you find that amusing???

Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

I support people buying their own contraceptives. Whatever means they want. How about me getting a tax payer funded gun so I can exercise my second ammedment right?

So you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

I value people being responsible for their own choices.

Nope, you value your tax money more than stopping abortions. Got it.

They aren’t willing to compromise their political values to save human life.

Gosh, another liberalism in a nut shell in another thread: My actions are someone else’s fault and responsibility.

Not saying anything is your fault. You are not responsible for any abortions.

On solutions, your politics are more important than those babies though.

Here’s a solution too. Take responsibility for your own decisions and actions. I know it’s a foreign concept to you guys.

Agreed. Everyone should and we May get there at some point I think the future.

In the meantime, we deal with people who make imperfect decisions which result in pregnancies and abortions.

Can we create some tax-funded programs to alleviate the abortions and save some babies?

We already have a tax funded program to alleviate abortion and save babies. It’s called prison.

gooddad409 · 2020-02-21T17:23:12.304Z

adroit:

gooddad409:

There’s no excuse for taking the lives of millions of unborn babies.

None.

Would you support policies that empirically demonstrate a reduction in abortions be reducing unplanned pregnancies? Would you support publicly funded incentivized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraception like IUDs or male Vasalgel) to the tune of paying individuals $500 to do so?

For everyone no. For those who couldn’t afford it yes.

Abstinence would be preferable as that would also be sin free(for unmarried couples) some people just aren’t going to refrain however.

But regardless there is no moral excuse for killing millions of unborn babies.

gooddad409 · 2020-02-21T17:25:23.175Z

Guvnah:

gooddad409:

And you find that amusing???

Their pretense of amusement is just a matter of deceiving themselves as they wrestle with the internal conflict they have with their conscience.

I believe all people have good in them, and it is that goodness within themselves that reminds them of the abject evil that abortion is. They all know it. They just try to shout down their own hearts that are crying out inside of them.

Great points one and all. I believe each point to be true.