Let the denials and excuses begin

From that article:

“Among both Ukrainian and American officials, there is considerable debate about whether Mr. Shokin was intent on pursuing a legitimate inquiry into Burisma or whether he was merely using the threat of prosecution to solicit a bribe, as Mr. Zlochevsky’s defenders assert,” the Times added in a 2019 report.“

Something you don’t often hear anymore. The MSNBC and CNN narrative is the Biden line, and the White House will cite MSNBC and CNN as proof of the WH narrative.

Now that is a fairytale. There are those who believe that we are wasting money giving free cash and weapons to Ukraine. In no way are they supporting Putin. They want the money spent on things to help the United States citizens that are hurting. There are those who believe we need to step back before we end up with troops on the ground and more flag draped body bags being sent home over two corrupt countries. They are not supporting Putin they are just tired of war.

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Wow this must be getting bad for Biden! It’s now confirmed house Dems agree Rosemont Seneca who was being retained by Burisma also handled all of VP Bidens personal affairs. The house of cards are falling, and there’s nothing the liberal choir can do. If Burisma went down while he was in office, Joes personal investors stood to lose millions and possibly turtle as a whole! Dang I was right on target!

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House Dems confirmed Rosemont Seneca handled all of Joes finances while he was VP! Ouch that’s gotta hurt knowing If Burisma turtled while he was in office he personally stood to lose millions. So what exactly was Schwerin investing joes money in? It makes Naftli buying the artwork of Hunter and getting a cabinet position that much more sleezy.

Bidens entire cabinet are grifters. All an appointment cost is a couple Hunter artwork purchases.

Yes. He visited the WH 36 times, but we are supposed to believe he never discussed Rosemont Senaca with Joe.

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Nowhere in his testimony was he asked about Hunter Bidens connection to Burisma because that email never made it in the open till early 2020. Now libs are even admitting Rosemont Seneca who was retained by Burisma also personally handled all of Bidens personal finances while in office. Biden stood to lose a fortune if Burisma or Rosemont Seneca turtled when he was in office. We all know it!

It’s impossible, I know everything about the firm investing my 401k money. My wife and I have our advisors number on speed dial. It’s obvious he stood to lose millions if Rosemont Seneca turtled while he was in office. That’s the pay to play! That’s it! What was Schwerin investing in! That’s the million dollar question.

Some of Rosemont Seneca’s business dealings:

I note that one of the “debunkings” I have seen offered was that the 3.5M from the Russian oligarch went to Rosemont Seneca Thorton, not Rosemont Seneca. However, this document shows that the managers of Rosemone Seneca Thorton were Devon Archer and Rosemont Seneca…and Hunter Biden was a manager of Rosemont Seneca.

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I think this will go straight to the 20 LLC companies. Schwerin was cleaning joes investments while he was in office, so they weren’t traceable. It’s a mob tactic.

Cutting off aid to Ukraine is supporting Putin.

There is no need to treat this as an either/or. The United States as a whole is capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time.

If they are tired of war, why don’t we hear a peep about the several wars in West Africa – all of which have been going on longer and all of which Putin has a stake in.

Because, although they do not recognize it, a lot of Americans are dancing to Putin’s tune.

Ok Nikki Hailey. Put detterents in these countries and they won’t be raided! That’s a novel idea! Then we aren’t funding endless wars. You guys cheer as if you want Putin to invade someone so it gives you something to beat your chest about. Putin is like that new en vogue clothing line you raved about in HS, then changed it to a new dejure clothing line in college when you get tired of him. He’s a fad. Since when has the real left become war mongers? I’m ashamed of what my party has become. It’s nothing like the party of the 90s.

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Are you at all concerned about ivanka Trump getting a 2 billion investment in her husbands real estate business by the Saudis while both were actually white house employees.
They all went on a big trip there around about the time a us citizen Jamal Kasshoggi was chopped up to little pieces by the Saudis captured in broad daylight and it was all swept under the carpet.
It showed the Trumps actually financially gaining from their positions
They were actually in government Hunter is not.
Or how about Trump himself having Chinese bank accounts or Ivanka getting all those Chinese trademarks while saying they are an enemy yet doing business with them.
All that maga merch your wearing is made in China so well done Trump and not to mention using his position now to make millions in political donations which he is using for personal expenses
You ok with a trump political pac spending $120,000 a year on Melanias hair for instance.
Let’s get to the bottom of it all.
I don’t care which side your on 2 billion dollars loan from a foreign country whom you met with while in government is very worrisome to put it mildly and makes the hunter thing seem mild in comparison.
At a time a us citizen was murdered by the same country and no response was forthcoming by the US as would be expected.
If anyone is truly worried about corruption then you need to talk about it all otherwise you cannot be taken seriously does that seem fair.

The democrats being the best dancers. They have carried out Putin’s wishes since 2016.
You want war you send your children or go yourself. My children have fought enough wars for you. It is easy to push for war when you won’t be putting anyone of your families lives on the line for two corrupt countries.

Maybe you need to look into the biden crime family. It is funny that someone who does not even live in the United States has hate for a man and his family that does not even affect their lives. Makes a person wonder just what your goal is.

I have no problem with congress looking into Trump’s relatives international business dealings if he is elected again.
. If it turns out the money Hunter got,from Ukraine, Russian oligarchs and China was for investment…so be it. One would at the current time want to know the details of where it was from and what it was for. If it turns out it was all for legitimate business deals then so be it. Write up,a report and end the investigation.
If that is the case, one would wonder about the need for setting up around a hundred accounts and corporations with no purpose other than to funnel money. One would wonder about the need for Joe to lie about any knowledge of the business or lie about meeting the people involved.
But then, as I hope courts confirm, lying is not a crime.
And if it turns out Trump and his relatives were taking money not for legitimate business deals and not even as “goodwill” but to perform a particular governmental act, then they should prosecute him for taking bribes.

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Is your adulation for Putin so deep that you did not notice that his praise for Donald Trump this week?

I watched Donald Trump stand next to Putin in Helsinki and say he accepted Putin’s intelligence assessment over the assessments of US intelligence agencies. As someone who has done classified work for those agencies, I felt I was watching the President betray the United States. So come off your “my family is involved but yours is not” high horse.

You ignored my question about opposing wars in West Africa. Of course you did, because you appear ready to bow down before anything Putin wants.

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Finally!

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As a military strategist would tell you: know your enemy. Perhaps you have read “The Eighteenth Brumaire” but if you haven’t, know that the comment of repetition is presented as quote from Hegel – which tells you it isn’t because Marx then pretends he can’t remember where Hegel wrote it. It is all obviously one of those false adages – akin to F. Scott Fitzgerald’s “There are no second acts in American lives” that even though patently incorrect, are useful.

It would further discussion here if some of those who rail against Marxism had a minimal acquaintance with what Marx wrote and what Marxism is.