Just Keeps getting worse and worse for Puerto Rico .

[Samm]

@CanadianJudo

Puerto Rico is the same as D.C they are not a State they have no Sovereignty under the Constitution any authority they have is delegated to them by Congress.

seem like Puerto Rico is in crisis, so fix it stop pretending you can’t do anything about it.

Puerto Rico is nothing like DC. Puerto Rico is a self-governing Commonwealth (by the will if it’s people) with their own Constitution, who also enjoy the protection of the US and US Citzenship, as they are still legally unincorporated territory of the US. Their citizens also pay no Federal income tax excep on gains earned inside the US.

[Samm]

@BlueTex

@WuWei

Puerto Rico is an island and a country. It was not formed by the government.

Washington DC is a city formed from two states.

They are nothing alike.

Cut them loose.

Puerto Rico is a country? When did that happen?

In 1953 when they officially ended their stint as an incorporated territory of the US and became a Commonwealth.

[Samm]

@WuWei

@TheRedComet

The question that would remain in that issue is citizenship.

Every Puerto Rican alive today is a natural born citizen of the United States.

To do it “right” we would have to give the people a choice. Either renounce citizenship and remain on the island or keep US citizenship and relocation on the mainland.

That would be an incredibly difficult thing to manage since I suspect most would choose to come to the mainland.

Change the law and let them die off. Make them choose. I don’t care. We need to divest that horrible “investment” which has zero return.

We can let Hawaii and Samoa go while we’re at it.

There is no mechanism to expell a State from the Union.

[WuWei]

@AlexMcAlpine

@WuWei

Change the law and let them die off. Make them choose. I don’t care. We need to divest that horrible “investment” which has zero return.

Puerto Rico brings a lot to the table.

What Does Puerto Rico Bring to the Table? | Puerto Rico 51st

Puerto Rico was made a territory in 1917 by the US for one reason - send its men overseas so fewer “real” Americans would have to go.

Puerto Ricans have served in every war since and many have given their lives for their country - the USA.

Nine Puerto Ricans won the Medal of Honor, posthumously.

We owe the inhabitants of that island some gratitude, not a casual, “well, we can’t use them any more so let’s let 'em starve to death” dismissal.

Those are individuals. Puerto Rico as a country brings nothing to the table. It’s like being engaged to a woman with bad credit, a ■■■■ ton of debt, no job and a bad attitude. Then wondering if you should go ahead and marry her.

Cut them loose.

PS- it don’t work that way. Somebody else doesn’t not go because one of them did.

PSS - Did you serve? Maybe they went for you. I did my own.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

@Axxowiz

@Jezcoe

Alexander Dugin

You could be right some of it could be because of his influence, but I think it can be traced back many years with the boiling point being the 2015 migration into Europe. I know it’s not a particular popular thought on the left but I think migration, outsourcing because of globalization carries a lot more weight than they want to admit.

Globalization is just Capitalism in action.

Economically I agree.

[WuWei]

@Safiel

It is merely the division of labor on a global scale and is a good thing.

For some. Others need time to adapt.

[WuWei]

@Samm

@WuWei

@TheRedComet

The question that would remain in that issue is citizenship.

Every Puerto Rican alive today is a natural born citizen of the United States.

To do it “right” we would have to give the people a choice. Either renounce citizenship and remain on the island or keep US citizenship and relocation on the mainland.

That would be an incredibly difficult thing to manage since I suspect most would choose to come to the mainland.

Change the law and let them die off. Make them choose. I don’t care. We need to divest that horrible “investment” which has zero return.

We can let Hawaii and Samoa go while we’re at it.

There is no mechanism to expell a State from the Union.

Amendment.

[Safiel]

I have to, shall we say, differ in opinion on some points made in this thread regarding Puerto Rico.

Until the day that Puerto Rico is: 1. Admitted to the Union or 2. Granted independence, it is a territory of the United States, no more, no less. It’s status as a self governing commonwealth is irrelevant to its status as a territory of the United States.

Puerto Rico is currently deemed to be an UNINCORPORATED territory of the United States, per a very long line of court decisions dating back to the Insular Cases, which first made the distinction between incorporated and unincorporated. As an unincorporated territory and per the Insular Cases, Puerto Ricans lack some of the privileges and immunities of those living on the mainland, even as United States Citizens.

Congress could, by law, incorporate Puerto Rico but to this point they have not done so. Congress could revoke Puerto Rico’s self governing status by law, in which case Puerto Rico would be governed by a Governor appointed by the President of the United States and with a legislature that would have only limited power.

The bottom line is that, barring Statehood or barring independence, Puerto Rico is Congress’s bitch.

[WuWei]

Cut 'em loose.

[Samm]

Nope.

[WuWei]

Yep indeed.

[Tim]

@Snow96

Puerto Rico’s government just keeps sliding further and further into the sewer.

From being unable to distribute reliefe supplies that showed up, to finding water shipments a year later that were un-opened and not distributed.

Now we have riots, and governmetn officials being arrested and a call for the Governor to resign (but he is refusing).

lls for Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rosselló to resign are growing after remarks he made in a private group chat were leaked, and more protests are being organized in San Juan.

Some of the e-mails:

The exchanges between the governor and his inner circle reveal a vengeful approach in running the government – including attacking journalists by discrediting stories and threatening to turn over political opponents to police.

In the chat, Christian Sobrino Vega, then-Puerto Rico’s chief fiscal officer and Roselló’s representative on the federal board, expressed frustration with San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz and said he wanted to shoot her.

“You’d be doing me a grand favor,” the governor responded, according to the leaked chats.

Two members of the government that were in the chats have resigned. The governor is digging in and saying he appologized and need not do anything futher becaus he has “work to do”.

Puerto Rico is a disaster (and not from the Hurricanes). I used to think they should be given one last vote, become a state or be cut loose. Now I’m thinking they just need to be cut loose and become their own nation and we should be done with them.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/us/puerto-rico-governor-protests-ricardo-rossello/index.html

Just discovered yesterday, the situation is even worse yet. Yet another warehouse was discovered in the city of Ponce to be holding undistributed aid from the 2017 hurricane. A blogger recorded the discovery after the warehouse was inspected for damage due to the recent earthquake. This huge warehouse appears to be 100,000 - 150,000 square feet and packed with supplies such as water, tarps, tents. blankets, baby formula, diapers, Coleman stoves and camp fuel, propane cylinders…

Puerto Rico emergency manager dismissed after unused aid found in warehouse -...

Here is the video from the blogger after the undistributed aid was discovered:

#PRnews🇵🇷 😳😳😳🤬🤬🤬 ENCUENTRAN SUMINISTROS ENCERRADOS EN PONCE

[FloridaYankee]

@WuWei

@Samm

@WuWei

@TheRedComet

The question that would remain in that issue is citizenship.

Every Puerto Rican alive today is a natural born citizen of the United States.

To do it “right” we would have to give the people a choice. Either renounce citizenship and remain on the island or keep US citizenship and relocation on the mainland.

That would be an incredibly difficult thing to manage since I suspect most would choose to come to the mainland.

Change the law and let them die off. Make them choose. I don’t care. We need to divest that horrible “investment” which has zero return.

We can let Hawaii and Samoa go while we’re at it.

There is no mechanism to expell a State from the Union.

Amendment.

Interesting.

[WorldWatcher]

@FloridaYankee

@WuWei

@Samm

@WuWei

@TheRedComet

The question that would remain in that issue is citizenship.

Every Puerto Rican alive today is a natural born citizen of the United States.

To do it “right” we would have to give the people a choice. Either renounce citizenship and remain on the island or keep US citizenship and relocation on the mainland.

That would be an incredibly difficult thing to manage since I suspect most would choose to come to the mainland.

Change the law and let them die off. Make them choose. I don’t care. We need to divest that horrible “investment” which has zero return.

We can let Hawaii and Samoa go while we’re at it.

There is no mechanism to expell a State from the Union.

Amendment.

Interesting.

@TheRedComet

You forgot one option.

1. Accept citizenship in the new nation of Puerto Rico and reject US citizenship and remain on the island,
2. Reject citizenship in the new nation of Puerto Rico, retain their US citizenship and move to a United States State.
   or…
3. Reject citizenship in the new nation of Puerto Rico, retain their US citizenship and and stay on the island. There are many US citizens that live in foreign counties.
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   .WW, PHS

[DMK]

@WuWei

Puerto Rico as a country brings nothing to the table. It’s like being engaged to a woman with bad credit, a ■■■■ ton of debt, no job and a bad attitude. Then wondering if you should go ahead and marry her.

I’ll second that sentiment

Edit: I didn’t see this story had already been posted by @tim

Wow - Puerto Rico Governor Fires Emergency Response Director After Massive...