Well, the NY Times is not an ironclad reliable source, but hereās the way they tell it:
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The gun was an early Christmas gift from his parents: a semiautomatic 9-millimeter Sig Sauer handgun. āMy new beauty,ā Ethan Crumbley, 15, called it.
The day after Thanksgiving, he and his father had gone together to a Michigan gun shop to buy it. He and his mother spent a day testing out the gun, which was stored unlocked in the parentsā bedroom. On Monday, when a teacher reported seeing their son searching online for ammunition, his mother did not seem alarmed.
āLOL Iām not mad at you,ā Jennifer Crumbley texted her son. āYou have to learn not to get caught.ā
A day later, the authorities say the teenager fatally shot four classmates in the halls of Oxford High School in suburban Detroit, . ā¦
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Frequently left home alone, Ethan Crumbley texted his mother in March 2021 that he had seen a demon in their house, one that hurled dishes across the kitchen. Days later, his parents, James and Jennifer Crumbley, discussed how their teenage son was āworked up and agitated,ā weighing whether to give him Xanax.
The next November, James Crumbley, ignoring what seemed like warning signs that Ethan had mental health issues, bought his son a semiautomatic handgun. Ethan, then 15, used the gun to kill four students at Oxford High School, the worst school shooting in Michigan history.
On Tuesday, jury selection began in the trial of Jennifer Crumbley, 45, charged with involuntary manslaughter for the deaths . . .
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I dunno.
but if dad has guns, and all the uncles and grandparents have guns
getting your own guns at 15 is kinda like āWhyād ya wait?ā
Context:
I was 15ish before my family got itās first video game.
I never (as a kid) got my own TV or my own phone.
As the standard of living improves, kids get stuff earlier.
You and I agree on a lot,
but I think in this case, this was a kid who needed to be watched, kept away from guns and possibly medicated. Thatās the story the NYTimes paints anyway.
Even if it was not the case here, it is sometimes.
Hypothetical hereā¦letās say the parents are gun enthusiasts and have little kids. They do not secure their weapons and leave the kids home alone with them laying about. One kid picks up the weapon and shoots another one of their kids.
Are the parents liable for this? Just trying to get where you are coming from. Neither parent shot their kid, but it seems their negligence led to this happening. Do you agree?