Me too. I have Toyota plug-in hybrid- I almost never go to the gas station, and have not noticed any increase in my electric bill.
I had an âantique copperâ 1970 split-bumper with the 300 hp 350 SS package. One of lifeâs regrets having sold that car ⌠
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Chevy vs. Ford is one of this countryâs greatest rivalries. Mustangâs are cool, but not as cool as Camaros. Cudas outclass them too. 
(Do you notice how much the new Mustangs look like Camaros? 
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You must normally have a big electric bill then. Thatâs the problem with statements like that. If you are already using a lot of electricity, charging the car may not look significant.
You say POtato I say PAtata 
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from fortune website
âElectric vehicle sales are expected to hit a record 9% of all passenger vehicles in the U.S. this year, according to Atlas Public Policy. That will be up from 7.3% of new car sales in 2022.â
yep public is snubbing their nose at EV. lol
Allan
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Dying fad is sales declining swiftly.
That signals a dying fad
AUTOS
Why dealers say EV sales have slowed
PUBLISHED WED, NOV 1 20239:25 AM EDT
, , , the U.S. is expected to add 1 million new EVs to its roads this year.
EV and internal combustion engine (ICE) inventory started the year off at about 52 daysâ supply, according to Cox Automotive. Daysâ supply is a way of measuring how many vehicles a dealer has on the lot. In the case of a 52 daysâ supply, if automakers were to stop producing cars today, dealers would be able to keep selling cars for about that number of days before running out. Since January, EV daysâ supply has skyrocketed while ICE supplies have hovered between 52 and 58 days. EV supply at the start of October was 97 days, down from the peak inventory of around 111 days during early July.
In August 2023, it took about twice as long to sell an EV in the U.S. as it did the previous January. Meanwhile, gas-burning vehicles were still selling briskly. . . .
EV leader Tesla has slashed prices dramatically, sales at some electric vehicle startups, such as Lucid, have disappointed, and companies like Ford Motor have ramped up hybrid production as demand for their EVs has leveled off. . .
We have to pay car makers just to make them.
We have to pay car buyers to buy them.
And yet inventories are piling up and there is more and more talk about the next round of checks we have to right just to try to save this sinking ship. (Ya gotta pay to put in charging stations on every street corner. EV buyers re like "Ew yech I wonât own one of those if I have to drive three blocks to charge it. etc.)
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who cares about goals and mandates? Biden? any other politicain?
thats political pandering.
its like trump having mexico pay for the border wall.
political pandering.
you can see that right?
EV sales up substantially in 2023.
and will increase yet again next year.
Allan
Inventory maybe piling up with certain manufacturers but not all. If a manufacturer is having trouble selling an EV⌠then itâs probably because they are not addressing customers needs with it.
Tesla isnât having a problem moving EVs, neither is Kia. GM and Ford seem to have a problem.
Ev sales are up for the year not down but they are leveling off. Their market share is stalling. Partially because of lack of infrastructure.
That is still not a dying fad
Calling electric vehicles a fad is like calling tv and internet fads
Both were called fads btw.
Yep thatâs the exact issue. The lack of infrastructure
Back when the gasoline automobile began; people asked whats the use? At that time a horse could where a car couldnt. I think the same with the electric car. Whats the point? My gas car can go much farther than an electric. And i can fuel and go.
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In your opinion.
My opinion differs.
Or are you one who cannot bare to see people with differing opinions like others here.
Wait until batteries start dying.
âWait until engines start blowing upâ
-Horse Owners in 1900
"The free market is stupid to chose gas cars.
We should choose the Stanley Steamer and force it down everyoneâs throat."
-Central Planners in 1900
Seems like this could be a bit of a problem for ford.
https://www.thestreet.com/technology/ford-loses-nearly-60000-for-every-electric-vehicle-sold
Losing 60,000 for every EV sold?
Yeah even with their big corporate welfare checks the non-viable technology is still non-viable.
Thatâs why Ford and GM and Honda and . . . are abandoning their EV goals.
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Ford has halted billions of dollars in investment in EV manufacturing, warning that customers will not pay a premium for these vehicles.
The auto giant announced in its third-quarter earnings call on Thursday that it would postpone $12 billion in planned spending on electric vehicle production and pause some major projects, including the construction of a new battery factory in Kentucky. . . .
Ford had already announced that it would abandon its target of building two million EVs by 2026, and its latest move comes as auto companies take an increasingly cautious tone on the future of electric vehicles.Honda CEO Toshihiro Mibe told Bloomberg that the company was ending development of an affordable electric model, and General Motors has also abandoned its targets to build 500,000 EVs by the first half of 2024.
Oh yeah. They do that too.
Yeah wait until these tesla owners have to replace their batteries at 20-50k
Theyâll be going back to gas cars.
Already happening now
Do battery replacements happen more than engine replacements?
