It's Official: US auto dealers from every automaker oppose Biden's Eco agenda. (The same one automakers are abandoning as fast as they can.)

I thought you guys were oh so concerned about man destroying the planet, yet you ignore the damage done to the earth by lithium mining .

So which is it?

Do you care abuse the earth or not?

Why is this acceptable……

Yet this is not……

Where is the consistency?

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I’m not sure who “you guys” are supposed to be in that post.

I for one draw a big differnce betwee
“made something look bad” vs actaully harmed the planet.

a tiny well in the middle of the ocean or in the middle of the forest hurts nothing.

A majorly leaking well does harm no matter where it is.

So to you a lithium mine doesn’t harm the planet.

LOL.

Yeah OK

In your little world this….

Harms the planet less than this…

Wow.

Just wow.

Concerned about the environment my eye. :roll_eyes:

Does it leak?
Does it kill something?
Does it make something dirty?

Ugly people, ugly houses, ugly sculptures, etc.
do exactly the same harm as
an ugly oil well or an ugly solar field.

(In fact the ugly oslar field probably does some harm. It’s just a question of how much.)
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forest after a windstorm.
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forest after a windstorm
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Forest damaged by flood

Volcano causing an ugly mess

Volcano polluting the air
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So studies show that if you provide taxpayer money to benefit companies, those companies are benefitted. Takes no study for that. How about the taxpayers?

I do not blame the corporations. I blame the laws that allow them, with incentives to do so.

Profits are a wonderful thing…the more profit I make in my sales, the more money I make.

The things you think about liberals is over the top BS. I am beginning to think you might be a caricature of a rabid RW’er.

So why ban one in favor of the other?

I mean if they are both ugly.

Funny how you switched from “damaging the planet “ to being “ugly”.

Amusing.

Just to be clear, I think both should exist.

Thre is a website, maybe you ahve heard of it.
It is called AliBab.com

It is filled with . . . . (you’ll never guess) . . . not with evil Amercian compamies who mvoed overseas but with the Chinese companies tht are utting US companies out of business.

Q1

If a Chinese company is putting a US company out of business the US company
a.) Go die. Just die you evil corproation die! Losing 100% of all jobs and 100% of all tax revenues.
b.) Open where it is cheaper, saving a few jobs and saving some tax revenue.

Q2

A company grosses $1 million the same year it spends $2 million moving its factory (taking a net loss for the year.) The company should:
a.) Tell th truth to investors. (No accounting fraud. No Enrons) admit it is taking a loss.
b.) Lie. Cheat. Cover-up. Commit fraud and pretend it had zer oexpenses. (Just like Enron). It is an American corporation dammit it is evil and unike corporations everywhere else in the world American corporations should pay taxes on their gross pretending they had zero expenses .

(HINT: Whn you think about things instead of seeing the world in freshman year stereotypes like “American corporations are evil” you can really open your eyes and learn many hard truths.)

I made no such seithc.
You are so eger to play a childish game of “gotcha” that you failed to notice that I have been 100% consistent.

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Just keep making excuses.

Once again, I have never said corporations are evil (some certainly can be).

It is the economic laws passed, for the sole purpose to make more profits. Under the guise of “Free Trade”.

Ok……

Whatever you say. :roll_eyes:

I honestly love the irony that just drips from this place

:joy::rofl:

No you did not call them “evil”
That was how i characterized your view after your ludicours question about coproratond getting tax “breask” for miving overseas.

  • It displayed a complete ignorance of the fact that no country anywhere in teh world forces its corporations to pay taxes on expenses. Make X, spend Y, pay taxes on X-Y. that’s not a tax break that is common sense.
  • It displayed complete ignorance of the fact that typically US coprorations are not moving overseas they are being put out of business by overseas cmpetition. Many close the US plant and die, a few survive the competition long enough to save a few jobs by re-opening the plant overseas.

Chinese textile mills? Steel mills?
What did not happen: US facotries mvoved there.
What did happen: US factories refused to move there so the business died entirely.

Here is the alibaba.com page for wholesale steel:
https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/steel.html
and textiles: https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/textiles.html
oh look, and computer chips https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/computer-chip.html

Lemme know if you see any of it being made by US steel Bethlehem steel etc. (You know because so many US factories form US corproations toolk tax breaks and moved there.)

govt subsisizes lots of things on the taxpayers dime.

a subsidies were approved by congress.

elect different people if you want to end subsidies.

better yet appeal the ones you dont like, and continue the ones you do.

Allan

Ok.

https://www.electrive.com/2024/08/20/trump-calls-us-electric-car-subsidy-into-question/

thats the way it works. pass a law like biden did.

its easy……he says sarcastically.

Allan

Everybody has to eat. Nobody has to drive an electric vehicle.

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Farm subsidies made sense at one time
(when food security was an issue, just like energy security is one now).

However even then they were handled in a mish-mash fashion.
We have a sugar cane subisidy (making sugar and thus sugary drinks artificially cheap)
But a milk price subsidie (making milk and other healthy food artificially expensive.)

If we keep tose subsidies, (and I am not sure we should) we should probably put them all on the same page.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul is a net zero economic policy.

And …

They benefit the local environment (cleaner air) but they do not benefit the global environment. Riding that myth is silly.

I think you’re missing the point. The left doesn’t want to foul up pristine landscape. That can be defined anyway you like. Yet when it comes to solar panels, they have no problem clearing out a forest. Or like you said, creating eyesores.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/battery-storage-plant/2025/01/17/id/1195565/

Does it………?