Is there a difference between "attempt obstruction of justice" and "actual obstruction of justice"?

[Jezcoe]

@Cratic3947

In actual obstruction you lose all the e-mails… Like the Obama admin did,…over and over…

If that upsets you, you really should read the Meuller report.

[Hexenbiest]

BleachBit and a hammer = investigation over.

[Jezcoe]

@Hexenbiest

BleachBit and a hammer = investigation over.

If destroying stuff makes you upset, you should read the Meuller report.

[Paul_Thomson]

@Calvin_Reagan

Obstruction may consist of any attempt to hinder the discovery, apprehension, conviction or punishment of anyone who has committed a crime. The acts by which justice is obstructed may include bribery, murder, intimidation, and the use of physical force against witnesses, law enforcement officers or court officials

Who was the person “who HAS committed a crime” whose "apprehension, conviction or punishment you believe Trump tried to hinder? And do you think Mueller has been obstructing justice when you see that his investigation did not follow up on the illegal conspiracy between the DNC, the FBI leadership, and the DoJ bureaucracy to cover up Hillary Clinton’s campaign’s collusion with Russians, Australians, Britishers and Ukranians to smear Donald Trump and pervert the outcome of the election in the Democrats’ favour?

[Cratic3947]

@Jezcoe

@Cratic3947

In actual obstruction you lose all the e-mails… Like the Obama admin did,…over and over…

If that upsets you, you really should read the Meuller report.

Completely different. Almost as different as Nixon using his staff to spy and Obama using the FBI and justice department… A whole new level of corruption.

[Jezcoe]

@Cratic3947

@Jezcoe

@Cratic3947

In actual obstruction you lose all the e-mails… Like the Obama admin did,…over and over…

If that upsets you, you really should read the Meuller report.

Completely different. Almost as different as Nixon using his staff to spy and Obama using the FBI and justice department… A whole new level of corruption.

If one reads the report. Then one would see that there are a myriad of instances of the Trump campaign in contact with Russians for information to effect the election.

At the same time, the intelligence community was seeing a concerted Russian effort to effect the election.

So… the FBI shouldn’t be investigating that?

Is that the argument?

[conan]

Lynch Meeting with husband of target investigation on tarmac was obstruction of justice.

Her involvement with investigation on Hillary behave was obstruction…and forum libs defended both actions.

Both are actual obstruction…and that’s not counting what was done to hard drives, emails etc after they were subpoenaed.

So lets not lose sight of what real obstruction looks like.

[Calvin_Reagan]

@wonderingrover

Yep - he’s damn lucky in some of these cases that people refused to carry out his orders. Ordering the White House counsel to fire Mueller, then later ordering him to lie about him giving that order, and trying to have others curtail the investigation. It’s unbelievable what was going on in the White House.

And apparently he’s doing all this to cover-up a non-existent crime.

[reflechissez]

@conan

Lynch Meeting with husband of target investigation on tarmac was obstruction of justice.

Her involvement with investigation on Hillary behave was obstruction…and forum libs defended both actions.

Both are actual obstruction…and that’s not counting what was done to hard drives, emails etc after they were subpoenaed.

So lets not lose sight of what real obstruction looks like.

“meeting” and “involvement” are not obstruction. Telling someone to lie is obstruction, of which trump did lots.

[Calvin_Reagan]

Hillary Clinton being bad, doesn’t make Trump good.

Lets stop with these terrible defenses of Mr. Trump. If you want to argue that Clinton should be in jail, go right ahead. But this does not magically get Trump off the hook.

It should be noted that Clinton was a terrible candidate, worse than Trump.

[wonderingrover]

@conan

Lynch Meeting with husband of target investigation on tarmac was obstruction of justice.

Her involvement with investigation on Hillary behave was obstruction…and forum libs defended both actions.

Both are actual obstruction…and that’s not counting what was done to hard drives, emails etc after they were subpoenaed.

So lets not lose sight of what real obstruction looks like.

So, 2 people have court appearances on the same day - both for murder. The 2nd one can’t claim innocence because the other one is guilty and everyone knows it. Both cases have to be judged on their own merits.

Same thing with Trump & Clinton. One can’t get off the hook because the other one is guilty. Both must be judged on the merits of their own cases.

[LucyLou]

@conan

Lynch Meeting with husband of target investigation on tarmac was obstruction of justice.

Her involvement with investigation on Hillary behave was obstruction…and forum libs defended both actions.

Both are actual obstruction…and that’s not counting what was done to hard drives, emails etc after they were subpoenaed.

So lets not lose sight of what real obstruction looks like.

Someone should do something about that. Hmm, it’s like there’s no Justice Department at all, isn’t it?

Hey I thought Nunes was sending something something to AG Barr weeks ago?

I thought Dumpster Donnie was releasing the FISA info?

Something something 3 guys last June?

D5???

Huber!!! I

[wonderingrover]

@LucyLou

@conan

Lynch Meeting with husband of target investigation on tarmac was obstruction of justice.

Her involvement with investigation on Hillary behave was obstruction…and forum libs defended both actions.

Both are actual obstruction…and that’s not counting what was done to hard drives, emails etc after they were subpoenaed.

So lets not lose sight of what real obstruction looks like.

Someone should do something about that. Hmm, it’s like there’s no Justice Department at all, isn’t it?

Hey I thought Nunes was sending something something to AG Barr weeks ago?

I thought Dumpster Donnie was releasing the FISA info?

Something something 3 guys last June?

D5???

Huber!!! I

Has anyone heard the progress of the Trump DOJ on investigating all of this? I never hear anything about how that investigation is going. Seems like that investigation should be well underway by now.

[BlueTex]

@wonderingrover

Has anyone heard the progress of the Trump DOJ on investigating all of this? I never hear anything about how that investigation is going. Seems like that investigation should be well underway by now.

Huber is on it… any day now the arrests will begin…

[WuWei]

@Calvin_Reagan

What do you think?

By any means necessary. RESIST!

There was no justice involved in any of this crap.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@noSpaces

You cannot be charged with attempted murder, only actual murder.

A better example is that you cannot be charged for talking about killing somebody.

[noSpaces]

Ordering is just talking. Premise of our military.