Is the Biden plan to balloon our population a good idea?

[TommyLucchese]

@zantax

Without immigration our population wouldn’t increase or at least grow pretty slowly.

Immigration is used here to correct the imbalance between working age workers and pensioners that is bedeviling Western Europe and Japan at the moment, more specifically.

[Bosun]

Stumbling Joe is a Baffoon. Kamaalaa will be taking over after the 25th…

We got lots of problems now.

[WuWei]

@TommyLucchese

@zantax

Without immigration our population wouldn’t increase or at least grow pretty slowly.

Immigration is used here to correct the imbalance between working age workers and pensioners that is bedeviling Western Europe and Japan at the moment, more specifically.

Used by whom? Who is in charge of this master plan?

[Bosun]

Who is the puppet master? It ain’t stumbling Joe. His immagration plan was decided by some real strange folks.

[WuWei]

Even if it were true, which it’s not, it would only apply to legal immigration. Which is not the issue.

[Bosun]

Illegal to legal is the plan. I really hate to be saying this. It is all about votes.

[TommyLucchese]

@WuWei

Used by whom? Who is in charge of this master plan?

You wouldn’t understand.

[WuWei]

@TommyLucchese

@WuWei

Used by whom? Who is in charge of this master plan?

You wouldn’t understand.

I thought so.

[fallenturtle]

@Bosun

Stumbling Joe is a Baffoon. Kamaalaa will be taking over after the 25th…

We got lots of problems now.

::sigh::

Revised boring version: That’s a silly conspiracy theory.

[johnwk2]

@westaussie

The USA Supreme Court was not the only place or forum where they could have ventilated their claims and provided supporting evidence.

Getting back to the subject of the thread, is it really a good idea for the Biden Administration to flood our country with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, disease carrying and criminal populations of other countries? Is such action really promoting the general welfare of the United States and their citizens?

JWK

They are neither “liberal”, “progressive”, nor are they Republican or Democrat Leaders. They are notoriously evil Socialist Revolutionaries and Globalists who continue to use government force to steal and then enjoy the property which America’s labor, business and investors have worked to create.

[johnwk2]

@fallenturtle

@johnwk2

@fallenturtle

@Eagle-Keeper

@Eagle-Keeper

@fallenturtle

@altair1013

You’re in denial. It’s a population boom plan. Nothing is in place to prevent it. Not a thing.
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I’m not in denial. There is no plan to boom the population. And how do you even measure that? What percentage of population growth in a year is a “boom”?

He appears to be deporting people anyway, so that’s a “thing”.

There’s non plan and/or desire on the left to stop it though. Democrats policy on immigration is simply this - if you get here you can stay here.

Are we running out of room?

Actually yes, classrooms that is. The communities with high illegal immigrant populations have over crowded classrooms and underfunded schools. LAUSD is classic example of this which prompted the strike a couple of years back. Here’s a good take on this:

"Many schools across America are still grappling with the huge influx of young people from Central
America that arrived in 2014. These students were dispersed throughout the country, forcing school
officials in many communities (some of which were not accustomed to taking in international students and were unprepared for them) to make major adjustments in schools that often stretch resources to the limit. Scott Kitzner, the superintendent of schools in Harrisonburg, Virginia makes it clear by stating: “The reality is this: The federal government gives us basically no money to support these children, so the funding is coming from the state budget and mostly from the local budget.”"

Personally I found the whole article to be a good read:

https://www.npg.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Impact-of-Immigrant-Children-schools-FP.pdf

The fact is that education and healthcare are the two most expensive aspects of American life, and this notion that the American taxpayer should be responsible to pay the costs of that for any and every person who gets on on our soil is insane and economically unsustainable.

I can see why this might be a problem if we are primary funding schools via property taxes and many immigrants are probably living in low-income areas. Sounds like another reason why we should overhaul how we fund our public school system.

And we all know what your method is:

“From each according to their ability to pay, to each who needs help living a decent life.” ___ fallenturtle

JWK

When it comes to healthcare Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

Damn dude, I wasn’t even directly conversing with you and you already made it personal.

Quoting your fundamental philosophy and applying it to the economic needs of those who have and are invading our borders is making the conversation “personal”? Please explain.

JWK

Our socialist/fascist revolutionaries, which now control the Democrat Party Leadership, are known for accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of.

[fallenturtle]

@johnwk2

Quoting your fundamental philosophy and applying it to the economic needs of those who have and are invading our borders is making the conversation “personal”? Please explain.

Really?

It’s personal because you quoted me from an old thread and that quote is tangential to my post you were replying to (not to mention you didn’t use the forum quote feature which leads me to believe you had this saved in a text file somewhere).

And insult to injury the triple underscores preceding the attribution… use a nice emdash or something!

[westaussie]

Why does “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” come to mind?

[Bosun]

Well stumbling Joe could not even get into Air Force One. There is no conspiracy there.

[Rurudyne]

We must all refuse to be ballooned!

Johnny Dangerously your testicles and you

[fallenturtle]

@Bosun

Well stumbling Joe could not even get into Air Force One. There is no conspiracy there.

What are you talking about? He got in to the airplane. I was referring to the conspiracy of Harris taking over, but is this a new conspiracy theory, that he didn’t actually get into the airplane?

[Eagle-Keeper]

@TommyLucchese

@zantax

Without immigration our population wouldn’t increase or at least grow pretty slowly.

Immigration is used here to correct the imbalance between working age workers and pensioners that is bedeviling Western Europe and Japan at the moment, more specifically.

Flooding the nation with uneducated, impoverished people who don’t speak the language is not a way to grow an economy.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@westaussie

Why does “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” come to mind?

That’s before we had a generous welfare state.

[Eagle-Keeper]

@fallenturtle

@Eagle-Keeper

The fact is that education and healthcare are the two most expensive aspects of American life, and this notion that the American taxpayer should be responsible to pay the costs of that for any and every person who gets on on our soil is insane and economically unsustainable.

I can see why this might be a problem if we are primary funding schools via property taxes and many immigrants are probably living in low-income areas. Sounds like another reason why we should overhaul how we fund our public school system.

The money’s got to come from somewhere. It’s not like the people who pay property taxes wouldn’t pay another type of tax. One way or another flooding our schools with illegal immigrant children is a tax on Americans. And in a state like NJ it costs over $30,000 on average to educate an illegal immigrant child. Then when you factor in healthcare, housing, meals, etc., it’s more like over $50,000. So the fact is that Democrats are indeed raising taxes on the middleclass.

[DougBH]

@westaussie

Why does “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” come to mind?

Because you like little poems to determine our country’s policies?

I don’t.