Is 5G Bad for Your Health?

Yes, and the official line from the George Bush Center for Intelligence was that a mysterious unknown radiation was responsible for the “Havana syndrome” at multiple government facilities around the world.

Expressing doubts or ridicule about the Havana syndrome may result in an FBI SWAT team raid. So can claiming that 5G could be responsible for a syndrome of health effects.

I am waiting for what happens when the Russians put a new 5G installation next to the US embassy in Moscow. What will the official position be when government workers start to freak out?

5G C Band 3.7-3.98 GHz
Radar Altimeter 4.2 to 4.4 GHz

If your equipment, as designed, requires a guard band greater than your licensed band, your equipment is garbage.

Yup. The guard band is 220mhz, double that of what Boeing had asked for.

The US airlines failed to upgrade their equipment in time, and are now paying that price.

Who was there (on that bandwidth) first?

If the telecommunication companies want to use that frequency, they should pay for the filters on the airline’s altimeters.

Why should they pay for something the phone companies caused?

In fairness, the FCC is the primary villain with the FAA a close second. They both knew about the potential for this as a potential problem years ago.

Because it is their equipment that is either poorly designed and/or built.

They are licensed for 4.2 to 4.4 GHz, they have more than that as a guard band.

No one was. Its bandwidth in an unused spectrum. The problem is, that some altimeters have filters that are too wide which may cause problems.

There is nothing wrong with their equipment. It functions perfectly as permitted by the FCC.

I agree. So the FCC and/or the telecommunications companies should pay to upgrade the filters. It is their business that is disturbing the neighbors, not the airline’s.

After 30 years in an RF engineering field I have been on both sides of out of band interference issues, they all suck.

You don’t get to claim it’s “Not My Problem” when the other party is operating within their band.

Problem is the neighbors (airlines) built their house on someone else’s property.

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No … They did not. They built it right where their permit said they could build it.

The issues are typically with transmitters. Spurious emissions.
How often do you get your cell phone checked and calibrated and certified to have no spurious emission?

You couldn’t be more wrong.

Here is what Aviation Spectrum Resources, Inc. had to say about it in 2011, ten years before any 5G C-Band auction.

FREQUENCY STABILITY OF EXISTING ALTIMETERS
The vast majority of all radar altimeters flying today are based on “open loop” linear Frequency Modulation of a Voltage Controlled Oscillator (VCO) that operates at a center frequency of 4.300 GHz with frequency stability of +/-15 MHz over -40 to +70 Degrees C temperature variation that can occur aboard the aircraft.

Only the most recent altimeters used aboard all new aircraft such as the 787, A350 or A380 have digitally synthesized or reference crystal stabilized modulation. There are well over 10,000 aircraft flying with “open loop” VCO systems in their radar altimeters. These open loop designs are reliable and remain in full production as of this writing.

TOTAL REQUIRED ALTIMETER BANDWIDTH
In the paragraphs above we have indicated the various needs of operating frequency bandwidth to allow for each altimeter issue of altitude accuracy

The total bandwidth is: 164MHz Resolution + 10MHz Multiple Altimeter Offset +15 MHz Frequency temperature stability results in a total 189MHz with the remaining 11 MHz of bandwidth reserved for 5.5 MHz wide “guard bands” at the band edges to assure that the minor sidebands created by the altimeter do not intrude on adjacent band users and similarly to avoid adjacent band users that might otherwise interfere with normal altimeter operations.

The current issue is with base station transceivers in close proximity to airports, not individual handsets.

My statement stands.

So is the issue that the old transceivers receive the band they’re supposed to, but overlap into the band that was sold to the cell companies, because before 5G was a thing, they could pick up that spectrum without a problem because it wasn’t in use?

So it’s not the cell companies fault, it’s not the governments fault for selling the spectrum, but it’s the airlines fault for having equipment that encroaches on that spectrum to begin with?

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The FCC originally wanted to squeeze the radar altimeter service even more, 4.3 GHz center frequency, +/- 80 MHz.

The quotes above are from the airline industry explaining why they needed +/- 100 MHz.

The FCC stopped the 5G C-Band at 3.98 GHZ, a full 302 MHz from the Radar Altimeter center frequency.

Here is a link to the full document.

FCC PDF

Correct.

In the PDF I linked above is the Airline Industry commenting to the FCC the separation they needed, apparently they were wrong.

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What is probably most annoying, is that nobody started testing altimeters until just before the rollout was to begin. Causing delays for the telecoms.

Some 78% of the fleet have been cleared. They should have begun testing a long time ago.