International criminal court to investigate US for war crimes

[SixFoot]

@Weedhopper

Will Obama’s Nation building catch up with him?

Baghdad was looking pretty nice before Obama’s JV team came along.

[Weedhopper]

So true.

[AlexMcAlpine]

@SixFoot

Definitely not gonna happen, and they don’t know the half of it either.

What does the last half of that sentence mean?

[Safiel]

The relevant factor as regards the United States is “might makes right.”

The United States has a long history of war crimes.

The difference is that we have the military and economic might to avoid ever being held accountable for any of them.

Doesn’t mean the crimes didn’t take place.

Just means there will be no accountability.

Moro Crater Massacre in the Phillipines.

My Lai.

Just two of many.

It is undisputed that the United States committed war crimes, including recently.

It is also undisputed that the United States will never be held accountable for any of them.

[mobulis]

@SixFoot

Of course, just not as far as you’re concerned. The “we” are the people who participated.

You say, “I”.

Nope its still we.

[DougBH]

Not going to happen. The US is not a treaty member of the ICC. Further, by law,:

"In 2002, the U.S. Congress passed the American Service-Members’ Protection Act (ASPA), which contained a number of provisions, including authorization of the President to “use all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court”,

United States and the International Criminal Court

[zantax]

@gooddad409

@SixFoot

Exactly! lol

“War Crimes” was all the rage for libs to parrot back then. It could make a comeback, and Karl Rove might even be indicted!

What is really amusing is that the OP actually thinks our folks will be standing before a Hague court at some point.

Hey now, if Democrats wind up in charge, it very well may.

[Safiel]

The ICC’s action IS significant to involved individuals in some aspects.

For example, they probably should NEVER leave the United States again, nor should they even cross into Canada or Mexico. Canada, Mexico and virtually all of Europe are members of the ICC, so if a United States Citizen was indicted by the ICC and found in Canada or another ICC member country, that country, by Treaty obligation, MUST surrender that individual to the ICC.

So unless your sure your military service was entirely above board, I suggest burning your passport and staying home, including staying off of cruise ships.

[DougBH]

@DougBH

including authorization of the President to “use all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court”,

en.wikipedia.org

@Safiel

The ICC’s action IS significant to involved individuals in some aspects.

For example, they probably should NEVER leave the United States again, nor should they even cross into Canada or Mexico. Canada, Mexico and virtually all of Europe are members of the ICC, so if a United States Citizen was indicted by the ICC and found in Canada or another ICC member country, that country, by Treaty obligation, MUST surrender that individual to the ICC.

So unless your sure your military service was entirely above board, I suggest burning your passport and staying home, including staying off of cruise ships.

Again…American Service-Members Protection Act:

"…including authorization of the President to “use all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court”,

You think Canada is going to risk that?

If they come up with evidence of a war crime they had best submit it to the US for consideration.

[7ranz]

War crimes? Who us? Oh we’d never.

[CanadianJudo]

@Safiel

The ICC’s action IS significant to involved individuals in some aspects.

For example, they probably should NEVER leave the United States again, nor should they even cross into Canada or Mexico. Canada, Mexico and virtually all of Europe are members of the ICC, so if a United States Citizen was indicted by the ICC and found in Canada or another ICC member country, that country, by Treaty obligation, MUST surrender that individual to the ICC.

So unless your sure your military service was entirely above board, I suggest burning your passport and staying home, including staying off of cruise ships.

No American is going to get charged with war crimes.
even then Trump would just pardon them.

[CanadianJudo]

@DougBH

@DougBH

including authorization of the President to “use all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court”,

en.wikipedia.org

@Safiel

The ICC’s action IS significant to involved individuals in some aspects.

For example, they probably should NEVER leave the United States again, nor should they even cross into Canada or Mexico. Canada, Mexico and virtually all of Europe are members of the ICC, so if a United States Citizen was indicted by the ICC and found in Canada or another ICC member country, that country, by Treaty obligation, MUST surrender that individual to the ICC.

So unless your sure your military service was entirely above board, I suggest burning your passport and staying home, including staying off of cruise ships.

Again…American Service-Members Protection Act:

"…including authorization of the President to “use all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court”,

You think Canada is going to risk that?

If they come up with evidence of a war crime they had best submit it to the US for consideration.

Canada would follow its required treaty obligations.
also such a person would never get passed Canadian custom as they would have a refusal of admission order for them.

[CanadianJudo]

@SixFoot

Iraq was dumb enough to think they ever had a say in what constitutes a war crime as well.

Remember when the U.S Military would hang war criminal, not pardon them.

[markdido]

@DougBH

@DougBH

including authorization of the President to “use all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court”,

en.wikipedia.org

@Safiel

The ICC’s action IS significant to involved individuals in some aspects.

For example, they probably should NEVER leave the United States again, nor should they even cross into Canada or Mexico. Canada, Mexico and virtually all of Europe are members of the ICC, so if a United States Citizen was indicted by the ICC and found in Canada or another ICC member country, that country, by Treaty obligation, MUST surrender that individual to the ICC.

So unless your sure your military service was entirely above board, I suggest burning your passport and staying home, including staying off of cruise ships.

Again…American Service-Members Protection Act:

"…including authorization of the President to “use all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court”,

You think Canada is going to risk that?

If they come up with evidence of a war crime they had best submit it to the US for consideration.

Wow!

The resident libs sound positively giddy at the prospect of crucifying american service members.

[CanadianJudo]

@markdido

@DougBH

@DougBH

including authorization of the President to “use all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court”,

en.wikipedia.org

@Safiel

The ICC’s action IS significant to involved individuals in some aspects.

For example, they probably should NEVER leave the United States again, nor should they even cross into Canada or Mexico. Canada, Mexico and virtually all of Europe are members of the ICC, so if a United States Citizen was indicted by the ICC and found in Canada or another ICC member country, that country, by Treaty obligation, MUST surrender that individual to the ICC.

So unless your sure your military service was entirely above board, I suggest burning your passport and staying home, including staying off of cruise ships.

Again…American Service-Members Protection Act:

"…including authorization of the President to “use all means necessary and appropriate to bring about the release of any U.S. or allied personnel being detained by, on behalf of, or at the request of the International Criminal Court”,

You think Canada is going to risk that?

If they come up with evidence of a war crime they had best submit it to the US for consideration.

Wow!

The resident libs sound positively giddy at the prospect of crucifying american service members.

The U.S Military use to take war crimes pretty serious.
102 American servicemen were hung for war crimes during WWII.

[moonshine]

trump couldnt pardon someone charged with war crimes by the ICC

[SixFoot]

@CanadianJudo

Remember when the U.S Military would hang war criminal, not pardon them.

You don’t remember anything of the sort. lol

[zantax]

@moonshine

trump couldnt pardon someone charged with war crimes by the ICC

No, but I am pretty sure we can beat them in a war.

[Safiel]

BTW, there is a surefire way for the United States to avoid ICC jurisdiction.

Investigate, in good faith, all allegations of war crimes on the part of United States service members and charge any who need to be charged and tried.

The ICC does not exercise jurisdiction over nations that handle their own war crimes cases in good faith.

If we do it ourselves in the United States, the ICC becomes a non factor.

[SixFoot]

What do you people consider a war crime?