“Illegal Immigration is wrong, plain and simple."

[GrandWazoo]

Crisis creation 101.

[DougBH]

"According to the report, in 2014, 42 percent of all undocumented persons in the U.S. were “overstays.”

Of those who arrived or joined the undocumented population in 2014, 66 percent were overstays."

Ok. So that is what is meant by “most.” That sounds like a significant additional problem rather than alleviating the border problem.
So…the obvious answer is to increase ICE funding for interior enforcement, increase tracking of visa stays, and for states to assist ICE in enforcement.
Kind of the opposite of what the Democrats are wanting.

[DougBH]

@Absolution

Um, duh, so let’s build a wall around visas then.

Or, alternatively, we could increase interior enforcement and hire more ICE agents.

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

Oh, Trump will create chaos. It’s what he does.

Confident people won’t fall for it.

[margaretms2]

@GrandWazoo

This “crisis” is a result of the CEC blasting Trump for not keeping his campaign promise. He does not care about border security. He cares about the win. And if he can not get the win he wants the fight, all the way to November 2020. This administration can not even come up with a plan on how the $5B would be spent. Why? Because they don’t have one. And he has shifted his story about the wall so many times that he and his administration would look silly in court should it come down to it. Let’s be clear. The Democrats have always voted for border security bills. And these bills have always specified on how those funds would be allocated. The OP wants to try to spin it so it looks like the Democrats have always wanted a wall but not now that Trump is President. Well nice try. But we are smarter then that.

It’s amazing.

1. You make a transparently absurd campaign promise (build a giant wall, paid for by Mexico).
2. You fail to make that happen because it was a transparently absurd promise, and you have no actual plan to execute it, and it’s not popular with the general electorate.
3. Shut down the government and declare a state of emergency (presuming he’s going to do this, as his Fox News advisory team wish him to) to create drama on TV to please your insane base.
4. ???
5. Profit!

[Absolution]

no no no no no. I don’t understand all that. I know what a wall is though, so that’s what we need. That and Brawndo.

[adroit]

@DougBH

Of course when you throw in that was in exchange for a partial amnesty, you then have a different story. So don’t throw that part in.

Refusing a pathway for citizenship for DACA recipients is more important than a “ZOMG, NATIONAL EMERGENCY!”?

[adroit]

@DougBH

Trump is still willing to give that partial amnesty and extend it beyond DACA. Democrats rejected the offer. They need their chain migration as opposed to immigration based on the needs of the country.

“Needs of the country.”

Maintaining family support networks provides an increased likelihood of success when establishing new roots.

Taking this argument to the logical extreme, then only the economic contributor would be given access to immigrate here. Not their dependents whether that be their spouse or children…

[mobiusptc]

@DougBH

"According to the report, in 2014, 42 percent of all undocumented persons in the U.S. were “overstays.”

Of those who arrived or joined the undocumented population in 2014, 66 percent were overstays."

Ok. So that is what is meant by “most.” That sounds like a significant additional problem rather than alleviating the border problem.
So…the obvious answer is to increase ICE funding for interior enforcement, increase tracking of visa stays, and for states to assist ICE in enforcement.
Kind of the opposite of what the Democrats are wanting.

democrats want to fund the government and pay for those at the border(CBP) at the airport (TSA)

4 bills have been proposed in the house with the new democratic leadership…w

[DougBH]

Yeah. I guess that’s why there’s rarely a need to take things to the logical extreme. The other logical extreme would be if you can bring your wife, why not your village?

[LucyLou]

I love how this was barely a topic before the 2018 election, because they didn’t want to draw too much attention to the fact that no way in hell the GOP House was going to fund this boondoggle.

But right after they lose the House, the Fake Republican Media catapults this straight to National Emergency, and Brainless Donnie dances mindlessly to their tune.

Can’t stop laughing. So fake.

[adroit]

@DougBH

The other logical extreme would be if you can bring your wife, why not your village?

No one is making the argument to bring the village. Just the family.

[ComfortablyNumb]

@DougBH

Trump is still willing to give that partial amnesty and extend it beyond DACA. Democrats rejected the offer. They need their chain migration as opposed to immigration based on the needs of the country.

Trump is still willing huh? I assume you have proof to back up this assertion?

[TheRedComet]

Quantum dimensional chess?

[ComfortablyNumb]

@GrandWazoo

This “crisis” is a result of the CEC blasting Trump for not keeping his campaign promise. He does not care about border security. He cares about the win. And if he can not get the win he wants the fight, all the way to November 2020. This administration can not even come up with a plan on how the $5B would be spent. Why? Because they don’t have one. And he has shifted his story about the wall so many times that he and his administration would look silly in court should it come down to it. Let’s be clear. The Democrats have always voted for border security bills. And these bills have always specified on how those funds would be allocated. The OP wants to try to spin it so it looks like the Democrats have always wanted a wall but not now that Trump is President. Well nice try. But we are smarter then that.

Nailed it. With one caveat. Most of us are smarter than that. There remains about 1/3rd of “us” that are clearly not smart enough to get it.

[armycowboy]

The more Trump keeps doubling down on his wall, something a majority of Americans don’t want, by ginning up fear with lies, the more it will bite him in the ass.

[mobiusptc]

there is a lot of ass to bite too

[Grassroots]

And gay marriage will lead to people marrying their dog… standard tactics.

[PizzaReverend]

@Cratic3947

“Illegal Immigration is wrong, plain and simple. Until the American people are convinced we will stop future flows of illegal immigration, we will make no progress.” -Senator Chuck Schumer, 2009

“We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented and unchecked” -Barack Obama, 2005

“I voted numerous times… to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in. And I do think you have to control your borders.” -Hillary Clinton, 2008

When dems voters were told these quotes they thought Trump made them…lol!

Trump is Cool…

So what you’re saying is, the entire “Democrats are for open borders and want illegal immigrants to enter the country for votes” talking point is complete and total BS?

Glad you can admit it. Thanks.

[DougBH]

And no one is making the argument that a legal immigrant can’t bring their wife, either.