Illegal immigration and Kids

Let’s make America…great again by building a wall. :sunglasses:

Amen! :+1:

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Why do you think families are being separated?
Do you know for a fact they are even families? Isn’t it the responsible thing to do to make sure these are legitimate families? What if the children are just being used and are not part of a family? What happens after the adults have no use for them after they are deported?

What happens to the children then? Where do they go? Dumped in the streets in a foreign country, unable to find their way back to their real families?

Are you okay with that? Because I sure as hell am not. But, maybe you are not thinking from A to B to C. Maybe you are just seeing the hysterics and the emotions and can only see point A.

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How do you think some drugs are smuggled into this country? Hint: Tunnels are quite easy to build.

Walls have been defeated by those determined to defeat them for centuries. Hence me saying we do not need a 16th century solution to a 21st century problem. I don’t want to waste billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars just to make you feel better. I want real solutions to this problem. The obvious difference between you and I. You want to feel better by having BIG government engage in BIG spending, after they have proven for decades that they are the absolute worst when it comes to spending our money to try and achieve “solutions” to problems.

This issue is a real issue, and one that needs to be addressed and solved. A wall is simply not the most effective or efficient way to do it. If the objective is to make you Trump cultists feel better, then sure. I guess this giant waste of money is the right path for you all. For those of us who actually want to see the illegal immigration problem addressed and resolved, we want those funds directed in a means and fashion that will actually fix this problem.

The removal of children from their parents is not new… This has been going on for years, including during the Obama administration.

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No my friend. Tunnels are NOT EASY TO BUILD.

Now answer this, how come when after a wall was built, San Diego had a 95% reduction?

My point is that we can actually use the money that would be wasted on a wall to both secure our entire southern and northern border, AND address the issue of illegal immigrants who are here through overstays on their visa, AND focus on penalties levied against businesses who skirt the law by providing employment to those here illegally, AND address the need of deportation of those who are here illegally.

And actually, a lot of Americans do not want this pointless wall. But do want the border secured. The wall is nothing more than a wasteful exercise in making people feel better about the border. It does not actually address the very real problem of illegal immigration is any substantive and meaningful fashion.

I know that a wall can be defeated by those looking to defeat one due to centuries of history proving that walls can be defeated, quite easily by those determined to do as much.

Thank you for posting. Interesting article.

Not at this level, not for asylum seekers, not like this.

Of course it’s a choice of the administration, where have I said it’s not?

This is a choice to enforce the law just like the obama admin chose to ignore the law.

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What makes you think that a parent coming here seeking asylum would assume that their child would be removed from them?

So stop whining on a message board about how we need a wall and go help build it yourself, if it’s so important to you.

Start a Go Fund The Wall page and get going. Surely, you’ll get enough donations and volunteers to build it.

So what’s your real solution?

Do you think they come over in a bubble lacking information? They think they are following the yellow brick road on the land to Oz?

If so, then they really should be deported and reproduce no more.

They are not asylum seekers. They are money seekers.

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Um, yes, tunnels are in fact quite easy to build. Just because it may seem complicated to you, it does not mean it is complicated for everyone.

Because people found a different way to enter, getting around the wall. Defeating the wall. Or are you suggesting there has been a 95% decline in illegal immigrants entering the US from the southern border? Nope, doubtful.

The reality is that they found a way to defeat the fence. As they will continue to do, should a great wall of Mexico be constructed. You make my point for me here. It is a waste of money, as they will still gain entry to our nation. The money would be better spent in many other areas.

We have a government and pay taxes for this purpose.

The same asinine argument could be directed at you:
If you don’t want a wall, and you find detention disturbing, quit wining on a message board. Welcome these folks into your home, house, feed them and make sure you provide legal and medical care.

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The article was from NPR. Now give me a break. You’re choosing to see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear and believe what you choose to believe…even though evidence that you’re wrong, that you can not dispute, has been presented. You used to be stronger than this? What’s come over you in the last couple of years? :sunglasses:

Did illegals find another way into the US or did they not?

I’ve listed it out before around here. Spend that money on substantially increasing the number of border patrol agents. Modernized technology that can monitor the border, and have enough bodies to address any illegal crossings. Greatly increase the number of immigration courts and judges, so cases can be quickly heard and outcomes determined. Expand and improve E-Verify, making it mandated nationally for any and all employment. Penalize businesses who hire illegal workers and those who fail to use E-Verify. Expand ICE in order to help find all illegal immigrants here who have overstayed their visa, and with the expansion of the immigration courts, ramp up deportations of all here illegally. Allow current DACA recipients a pathway to legalization but not citizenship. If they want to seek citizenship, they must return to their home country and apply. Give them priority through the legal application process. But if they want to stay here as legal immigrants, without citizenship status, that is fine as long as they maintain their necessary proof of contribution to society, as the current model allows.

These are broad strokes of course. But a general gist of things.