If Trump was smart, he would resign soon

[Chris]

@Smyrna

Hell no. Trump has faced almost every medium owned by the establishment that has hammered him 24 hours a day, 7 days a week…for the past 3 years and exposed them as being primarily fake. He’s exposed the disaster at our southern border, that libs have denied and is FINALLY making some headway to shut it down. ICE is now removing illegals here illegally. The real collusion between the FBI, the State Department, the DoJ, the CIA and the NSA to exonerate Hillary and when that didn’t work, to follow the “insurance policy” that Strozk spoke of is now coming to light. Hell no.

It is really interesting how a lot of Trump Republicans believe that the CIA and the FBI are basically corrupt while at the same time believing that ICE is a very well run Federal agency.

[toreyj01]

I know this is hard for you to grasp, but I don’t want Trump to resign.

He is the gift that is going to keep on giving.

I am just saying what would be in his best interest, not what will happen. This is precisely what you describe, just a thought exercise.

[toreyj01]

You are talking as if the last few years haven’t happened and that the Dems are above the level of vitriol we have seen from the POTUS the last few years.

I can’t guarantee that they will rise above, there are some hard feelings out there.

[GWH]

@toreyj01

This is precisely what you describe, just a thought exercise.

I know. I’m just saying the exercise is based on his fear of being prosecuted. In his world, that fear doesn’t exist, so the premise becomes faulty. Besides, the Gaggle of Hens are going to be the R’s ticket to winning the presidency and making gains in both houses.

[GWH]

I know they’re not above any level of vitriol. We’re counting on it.

[merickson]

@toreyj01

You are talking as if the last few years haven’t happened and that the Dems are above the level of vitriol we have seen from the POTUS the last few years.

I can’t guarantee that they will rise above, there are some hard feelings out there.

Cleaning up ICE, healthcare, Iran, how green should the New Deal be, … all the things that will win them the election will take precedence.

(Note that Trump isn’t much more of a crony crook than any other politician. More open (clumbsy?) about it. But not more crooked. No politician in DC, of either party, wants the DOJ to actually get into the business of prosecuting corruption.)

[Blackwolf]

I don’t see Donald going to jail, period. This thought exercise depends on elected officials moving to prosecute/punish the corruption of another elected official. Hits a little too close to home for most of them, and sets a dangerous precedent.

[Chris]

With the Democratic party having been moving further to the left over the last several months, I now want the Republicans to keep the Senate during the 2020 elections. But with Trump being on top of the ballot during the 2020 elections, it will make it more difficult for them to keep the Senate during the 2020 elections.

[Blackwolf]

@merickson

(Note that Trump isn’t much more of a crony crook than any other politician. More open (clumbsy?) about it. But not more crooked. No politician in DC, of either party, wants the DOJ to actually get into the business of prosecuting corruption.)

Beat me to it.

[toreyj01]

I think making gains in both houses would be difficult for the GOP with Trump at the head of the ticket, but I have been wrong before.

The Mueller testimony was striking to me in regards to the obstruction charges. Dems systematically addressed five of the charges and had Mueller agree that the 3 criteria that an obstruction charge needs were met in these 5 instances. They continually put out there the fact that he could be charged once he was no longer President.

I don’t see why they would continue to pound that fact home if they weren’t thinking of pursuing it if Trump loses.

[SimplyTrying]

@gooddad409

Reminds me of that old oldies song “Just wishing and hoping”

That’s cool. Dusty Springfield foretold of trumps love affair with Kim years ago:

Wishin’ and hopin’ and thinkin’ and prayin’
Plannin’ and dreamin’ each night of his charms
That won’t get you into his arms
So if you’re lookin’ to find love you can share
All you gotta do is hold him and kiss him and love him
And show him that you care
Show him that you care just for him
Do the things he likes to do
Wear your hair just for him, ‘cause
You won’t get him
Thinkin’ and a-prayin’, wishin’ and a-hopin’

[Plasmaball]

They should bury him honestly. Cheating pile of ■■■■ he is…

And the GOP should be run out of town for being ok with having Russias help,looking the other way at trumps corruption and illegal actions.

[GWH]

2 1/2 years of Mueller investigation ending in the “testimony” of “Well, if it’s in the report, then it’s correct.” has Americans scratching their heads wondering why. Why the expense? Why the show? Why no impeachment if damning as dems claim? Democrats will come away looking ineffective and then desperate if they press at a later date. Their window of opportunity is closing, if it hasn’t already, and this will bear out next November.

[JayJay]

@Jezcoe

@TommyLucchese

@toreyj01

That’s a really great “out”, I agree. Make it about health and wanting to spend “more time with the kids”.

I was reading the new Wolff book and that was Steve Bannon’s prediction. And Bannon may be a white nationalist scumbag who looks like a gender swapped Roseanne Barr on a ten year meth bender, but he’s weirdly honest in his own way.

Did you see the latest thing of Bannon using records from the Catholic Church to track people’s phones?

He was also part owner of and on the board of Cambridge Analytica.

[gooddad409]

Dusty was a great singer! The song more properly would fit the premise of the OP.

Just wishin and hopin.

[Chris]

Don’t be surprised if Arizona Republicans lose another Senate seat with Trump still out there.

[SimplyTrying]

@gooddad409

Dusty was a great singer! The song more properly would fit the premise of the OP.

Just wishin and hopin.

Nah. It’s a love song. Donald is in love.

[AZslim]

@toreyj01

I know he is not one to admit defeat, but honestly I think that if Trump looked ahead at the big picture, his best move at this point would be to resign. And I mean this year.

It would be the worst thing for the Democrats and the best thing for the GOP and himself.

Here’s why.

First, I don’t think he ever imagined winning. He is ill suited to the job, doesn’t seem to enjoy it, and I imagine he would much rather run his business than have to deal with Pelosi and the endless scrutiny he is now facing.

Second, he needs an out. If he loses in 2020 he will be going to jail for the rest of his life, if not by the DOJ certainly by the SDNY. What he needs is a pardon, and to do that he needs to walk away and have Pence become President. Pence can then pardon him in the same way Ford pardoned Nixon.

Now, he can gamble and try to win in 2020 and then just resign if he loses and have Pence pardon him during the lame duck period. But the GOP would certainly want a chance to win in 2020 if the numbers are looking bad for him by putting up someone more palatable to the voters. Resigning this year allows the GOP to either bolster Pence or generate additional candidates and debates for public consumption. This would also allow the GOP a better chance to hold the Senate.

If he actually wins in 2020, he can then be impeached, which he almost certainly will be. The only reason Pelosi is holding off is because she feels the straighter path to getting him out of office is the 2020 election. That will not be the case should he win. Not only will he be a target so will his kids and his businesses. He will lose that which he actually cares about trying to keep a job he never wanted.

The only way he winds up walking out like a boss and then starting the next chapter of his life is to go out on his own terms, a legend to his followers. He can take what he has done and turn it into a successful media empire or even an entire takeover of the GOP with him as the kingmaker, free from scrutiny and making big bucks.

Do I think he would do that? No, the narcissism he suffers from doesn’t allow him to admit defeat even when he wins as a result.

Your thoughts?

I think you are wrong about him not liking the job. I think he loves it more than any other in history. He doesn’t really give a ■■■■ about the world or the country, only himself and attention. This feeds his sickness more than anything else possibly could. In fact you watch, he won’t age like other presidents because he feels absolutely NO pressure because he feels NO responsibility. It’s all about him.

He will NEVER leave voluntarily.

[Roxiebelle]

My thoughts are this is just Trump hate wishful thinking or delusion!

[Chris]

It is most likely Arizona Republicans will lose another Senate seat with Trump still President in 2020. Trump is not that popular in Arizona here.