If NATO membership for Ukraine was a known bright red line for Russia, why did Biden promote it?

Just to add - it’s funny how there are all these posters all of a sudden concerned about ukranian neo nazis and progs cheering arming them when only a couple of years ago and for many to this day they support actual ultra right wing politicians who have actual power and can actually affect law. Marie La Pen etc

The Azov battalion was present on the battlefield in eastern Ukraine, where there were continual violations of the cease fire that resulted in hundreds of civilian casualties.

Neo-Nazis killing Russians civilians. What could go wrong with that?

Ironically reports are that a Jewish Ukrainian oligarch has been supporting the group.

“I think Kolomoisky is super-dangerous,” he said. “He is probably one of the most dangerous oligarchs because he’s one of the ones who’s willing to get his hands dirty.”

Brunson pointed to Kolomoisky’s role in funding the ultra-far-right Azov battalion, a group of Ukrainian fighters alleged to have ties to American white supremacists, per RFE/RL; the State Department has called its political wing a “nationalist hate group,” and human rights workers say it may be a haven for neo-Nazis.

“He was one of the first oligarchs who began to act like a warlord,” Brunson said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/billionaire-ukrainian-oligarch-ihor-kolomoisky-under-investigation-by-fbi

Azov Battalion and Right Sector could be a future problem in a rise in Ukranian fascism.

And the arming of Azov Battalion is an uncomfortable truth.

What is being reacted to is the Jimmy Dore/ Aaron Mate video where they talk of Right Sector’s role in the Maidan uprising without the added context that they as a party are basically non existent now.

It is back door feeding into the same nonsense that Putin is using as one of the justifications for invading a neighbor.

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Where is this hundreds of civilian casualties during cease fire number coming from?

Absolutely. No disagreement her except to say it’s not a future problem it’s a long standing problem but one that is currently not relevant.

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Good article.

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A UN report:

Over 80% of the civilian casualties have been on the Russian-separatist side.

Wow…there are many ways to wage war without waging war.

Thank you.

According to the Daily Beast link, the same oligarch supported Zelensky’s successful campaign to become the President.

The BBC acknowledged that as well but downplayed the relationship:

Zelensky had enjoyed the support of oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky during his presidential campaign, leading many to fear he would turn out to be a puppet leader, controlled by a man who is under investigation in the US for possible fraud and money-laundering.

He had in fact proved to be more independent than the sceptics thought, refusing for example to allow the re-privatisation of PrivatBank, which was owned by Kolomoisky before it was nationalised.

It’s funny how libs are supporting Neo-Nazis…cheering em on.

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Thank you for confirming my point with such gusto. Truly.

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Confirming that libs love/cheering on Neo-Nazis?

Just for record they’re far worst then Putin.

Nope confirming the point i made that you quoted in part. Thank you again

Neo nazis are much much worse than Putin. Sure. And? What’s the point of comparing the two?

Don’t know…why are libs supporting em?

No one is supporting Azov Battalion.

They are group of around 1000 dudes and are not nearly the casus belli to invade and take over Ukraine.

Yes, this is especially ironic given that the Fine-People Hoax was the basis of Biden’s campaign.

We have repeatedly seen American media claim that an image of a single confederate flag at an event means that everyone there is a White Supremacist or Nazi-sympathizer.

By that standard, Putin’s rhetoric about de-Nazifying Ukraine is hardly exceptional.

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Wait you made the comparison right?

Were the continuous violations one sided?

Over 80% of the civilian casualties were on the pro-Russian side according to the UN.

There has been virtually zero coverage in the western media of the simmering war in Donbas. What are seeing now is a massive escalation of war that has been going on since 2014.