If NATO membership for Ukraine was a known bright red line for Russia, why did Biden promote it?

[WuWei]

@Bosun

I want to know how come in 1945 the World Order did not support Ho Chi Minh in his determination to fight for his country’s sovereinty and reestablish French Colonialism to that South East Asian country.

Because he was a communist.

[Bosun]

He turned to the communists. President Z does not have that option.

[Bosun]

Figure he would be yours. Thanks

[WuWei]

@Bosun

He turned to the communists. President Z does not have that option.

Uncle Ho was a communist as a teenager.

[Bosun]

Vietnam turned out ok after the mericans left.

[WuWei]

And Ho died

[Bosun]

No one lives forever. We will have a beer together when Pukin’ Putin kicks the bucket.

And we can swap stories and laugh.

[OldandtiredX]

That is not exactly true.

[Axxowiz]

We need to be careful if my history is correct and it usually is one of the reasons Japan went to war with the US was we supplied them with 80% of their oil and cut them off at that point the Japan defense department said Japan had a maximum of two years they could wage war we know the rest of the story.

When I see headlines like this

I don’t want the last 30 minutes of life when the nukes are flying being people pondering “Wow I never thought he would do it”.

[Bosun]

You are usually accurate. Japan did get backed against the wall economically which led to their decision to go to war with the US.

[Oryx]

@Axxowiz

I don’t want the last 30 minutes of life when the nukes are flying being people pondering “Wow I never thought he would do it”.

Why would Putin react to sanctions by committing suicide?

[CanadianJudo]

@Axxowiz

We need to be careful if my history is correct and it usually is one of the reasons Japan went to war with the US was we supplied them with 80% of their oil and cut them off at that point the Japan defense department said Japan had a maximum of two years they could wage war we know the rest of the story.

When I see headlines like this

I don’t want the last 30 minutes of life when the nukes are flying being people pondering “Wow I never thought he would do it”.

Russia isn’t going to go to war with NATO unless we hit first.

[CanadianJudo]

@Bosun

You are usually accurate. Japan did get backed against the wall economically which led to their decision to go to war with the US.

the difference is if Russia attack the west.
Russia cease to exist.

[Bosun]

Oh, really? Tell me something profound. How is the COVID problem in Canada. Do you have 100% vaccination yet? How is the paper mask supply!

[Axxowiz]

I don’t want to pretend to know why a mad men would do such a thing. No one here knows what’s going through his mind but him, maybe he feels today is a good day to die.

We understand this with NK not sure why it’s beyond the pale to think Putin could think the world is after him and pull dr strangelove

[Oryx]

@Axxowiz

I don’t want to pretend to know why a mad men would do such a thing. No one here knows what’s going through his mind but him, maybe he feels today is a good day to die.

Yes, but if he’s truly a mad man hell-bent on world destruction, it doesn’t matter what we do, he’ll eventually go nuclear. If he’s not, he won’t escalate to nukes.

[TheRedComet]

No rational actor wants to fight a nuclear war. You can’t win a nuclear war. And a rational actor always has political goals in mind when they go to war.

Those political goals become unobtainable once ICBMs and SLBMs are flying all over the place.

[TheRedComet]

Uhm, it’s pretty profound.

I mean we are talking about the potential of 4000 nuclear warheads being used.

[WuWei]

@TheRedComet

Those political goals become unobtainable once ICBMs and SLBMs are flying all over the place.

I don’t agree with that, but it’s pretty much irrelevant.

[Bosun]

The profound was not to you. I am talking with the other brother who in my opinion did not say much.

So please state your solution.

In the meantime stock up on iodine pills and build a bomb shelter.