When I arrives to this forum 12 plus years ago I warned my follow conservatives about Patriot act…ad threat it poses. Of course we all know what they said don’t we? If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about.
It’s not about whether you have anything your hiding. It’s about human nature to use that power for your goals…whether it is for monetary or politically. It’s still power to be gain.
Forum libs side I was one of good conservatives for my position.
Then couple years later guess who became president…guess who controlled both houses?
What did they do? Not only did they renew the patriot act…Obama administration strengthen it…gave it more power. And not a single peep for forum libs…not one peep.
And now they are cheering the abuse that last administration done with that power.
So how can we change it? Apparently the only way for change to happen is libs must feel the breath of goverment down their backs…then just maybe they will join me in this fight to limit it. After all that was original intent of traditional liberalism…but they all have forgotten their past.
In 2013 and again 2014 I’ve tried warning our host about the abuse of that power throughout goverment agencies.
So why is it that same principal doesn’t apply to abortion and many other issues the right champions on?
But just for the sake of conversation what you really need to acknowledge is who was in control of congress when these strengthening powers were signed into law? Who added the riders? Who championed for them? I’ll give you a hint … it wasn’ democrats. I know full well your disdain for the libs, I get it, but who is really going against your stated positions?
The libs passed a ban on sugared soda, stupid yes but you won’t end up in jail for that. I guess it boils down to which agenda will cause you more harm. Now it’s only my opinion and I’m not trying to convince you otherwise but it seems to me your thoughts and concern about the proper role of government are more in line with what democrats has proposed and passed than anything the republicans have proposed and intend to pass.
My common interest is in the uprising of Europe against forced and illegal immigration. The people are voting today at the polls due to many who rose up a few years ago. Tommy Robinson was an intelligent voice that was one of those. I never heard anything come from his mouth that was just blatant hate and I also was unaware of his history. I’ve been watching this develop about the time Brexit came about but not prior.
Which was in direct violation of the courts decision that no reporting was to take place at that time.
Unlike the US when a case goes to court there are all manner of different reporting restrictions that are in place or can be enforced. For example you will not find anyone in the British media giving opinions on a criminal case once the court case begins.
Robinson was filming the the defendants walking in to the court building and broadcasting it on Facebook,no reporters were allowed to do what he did and he was on parole for a similar incident
It isn’t a free speech issue court orders are imposed to protect child witnesses and to not prejudice witnesses and jurors.At the close of the trial the restrictions are lifted and the details can be reported.
It isn’t seen as a bad thing by anybody here except the race hate morons and they’re only interested in a case if it contains Muslims,blacks or anybody else they hate.
Tommy Robinson is scum, it amuses me right wing Americans think differently.
Please stop your embarrassing yourself. As soon as the court case is completed then people can report and discuss it to their hearts content but during the case they want to protect the integrity of the case.
Robinson may be scum but his stand against the gang rapists, that committed their horrendous acts under the noses of PC authorities, who were more intimidated by being referred to as racists than seeing the truth and protecting those girls, is what I commend.
Here in the US, free speech too important for the power of negating it to be handed over to any authority. In an effort to not sway a jury by free speech, they are sequestered. So which side of the ocean, do you reside?
I do appreciate that you now add the disclaimer of “don’t count using government bureaucracy” after I posted you doing just that like 20 times. I like that we’re at a point where that is just a given. You’re welcome.
