I feel much safer! Thanks ICE!

Disingenuous.

In Obama’s 8 years, he deported a bit over 3million people, and he is the lefts “Deporter in Chief”.

At that rate it would take over 40 years to deport the people Biden let walk in.

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Yes, we can see that. But at the moment she took off, the wheels were slightly to the left meaning that the car launched directly towards officer Ross. At that instant, his perception was that he was going to be hit.

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Why would they do that? ICE is there to round up illegal aliens for deportation. Minnesota is full of them.

A better approach would be for people like you to quit protesting and interfering with their duties. The sooner they are done, the sooner they will leave.

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How disingenuous. You know damned well that that is not why she was shot.

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Even if that were the case, the two shots in the window were murder and put people’s lives at risk.

The only thing that matters is whether or not it was reasonable for Byrd (the officer) to believe that his life was imminently threatened. That is the basic test for the justified use of lethal force. Not what observers think … what he thought.

Sounds about right.

It’s the difference between passive enforcement (as previously done) and pro-active enforcement (as is going on now.) The passive enforcement would have taken a decade or more to clear the inventory even if no new illegals entered the country. As it is, there are so many illegals in the country now, that it will take several years to deport them all.

Something tells me that you would be protesting no matter if Trump had ramped up enforcement or not. You’re of that ilk.

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That’s not quite right either. Under Obama, illegals turned away at the border were counted as deported.

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Quit obstructing.

What a dopy POV.

I hope they send even more to MN.

The fraud must be horrible

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We’ve been over this. In a spontaneous danger situation, once the trigger has been pulled, it’s very hard to stop. Adrenaline and semi-auto weapons produce multiple shots. In numerous instances, cops have emptied their pistols into a perp. He did well to limit it to two extra shots.

There is nothing more arrogant than an armchair quarterback. It’s very obvious you have neither been in such an incident nor been trained on dealing with them. Until you are faced with it, you have no idea what you would do.

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I agree.

I don’t think that’s appropriate, or proper behavior, do you? His job isn’t to be a social media influencer.

And in such a “dangerous” situation he was focusing on recording rather than doing his job. If he wouldn’t have had his phone in his left hand… he probably would have been able to notice she wasn’t a threat…

I’m all for deporting criminals. I’m not for ■■■■ like this:

And the sad thing is, that’s not even the incident I was looking for…seems like there has been a lot of that.

I’m also against shooting a woman thought he driver side window.

I agree, And given the reaction by every other law enforcement on scene at the time it was demonstrated that it was not reasonable to believe there was an imminent threat of death. They stood by calmly, not even bothering to unholster their weapons. Byrd’s fears were based entirely on rumors that he heard about things that had (and had not) occurred elsewhere in the building nowhere close to him and certainly NOT in front of him. That was clearly unreasonable. Shooting her was akin to shooting a stranger who rings your doorbell because someone elsewhere in town was killed by a stranger ringing their doorbell. It’s unreasonable.

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I agree.

The idea that he was clowning around with his phone camera prior to the shooting, and the fact that he called her a b- after doesn’t speak well for him IMO.

I think he thought he had great video content proving some kind f point, absentmindedly stepped in front of the car, looked down from his phone to see the car moving toward him, and he freaked out.

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At that instant he was focusing on getting some tic-toe content and not doing his job.

The same can be said of the Good shooting.

We should all submit to our federal gov masters.

Just got to get in that personal shot. :joy:

It’s not for me (or you) to say what is appropriate for those officers to do. It may be ICE policy, given the enormous amount of harassment they have received. They may all be independently (from their body cams) filming protesters to counter them being filmed by the protesters when accused of misbehavior. Body cams only film directly in front of the officers.

These officers are Americans doing their sworn duty. Just for an instant, put yourself in their shoes and try to imagine how you would feel and how you might react if every single thing you did was being closely monitored and resisted by people who openly spew hatred upon you. Heck, you don’t even take criticism well on this forum. Just think how you would react if it was coming from a smirking screaming face directly into yours. It’s so easy for you to condemn these officers when you are so isolated from what they deal with constantly.

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