You got suckered by a cheating con man and that’s the best you got?
At least trump’s major piece of legislation gave him a massive tax cut. That will happen to him and his companies (shell or real) every year the rest of his life.
How come you don’t talk about the national debt anymore?
More like a makeshift Ellis Island type processing center which is better then releasing them into society with ankle bracelets that they remove as soon as they can.
Now ankle bracelets and processing centers?
Worst. Invasion. Ever.
It’s almost like some politician played a bunch of people. Again.
There were civilians in that crowd who were shooting at the soldiers. You find that upsetting and yet support Trump calling for soldiers to fire at people if any of them are throwing rocks…
I think that attitude of yours is funny.
You never know what some people dream.
Seems to me that a perspective which suggests by innuendo, that those who are concerned about the borders of the United States being allowed to be overrun indiscriminately, is somehow treating subgroups of people as “sub-human”, is not only an irrational perspective, but one which ignores that there are very real dangers to the general welfare of the United States which can be pointed to, if immigrations is not regulated with the interests of the United States and her citizens as a baseline.
For the past 35 years I have watched and witnessed uncontrolled, unregulated and illegal immigration take place, and the consequences have been devastating to American citizens across our country who have been paying the social and economic price.
JWK
American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America’s borders.
In the past 35 years, what you have witnessed has only been taking place in your head or else is propaganda fed to you by right-wing media.
The borders were not, in fact, “uncontrolled for the past 35 years”.
The number of illegal immigrants crossing over the southern border has leveled off in the past decade, a trend that started long before Trump became President.
Why do I say that certain people look at certain groups of people as sub-human?
Because the focus is on those coming across the southern border and not the much larger number (about 600,000 larger annually) of people who simply overstay their visas. Many of whom are not “brown people”.
And the constant messaging that these people coming across the border are “swarming”, “invading”, “infesting” (words that conjure up visions of insects or other animal vermin) and are mostly “gangs” and “thugs” and “rapists” and “murderers”…all words used to conjure up fear and anger, when most immigrant groups, both legal and illegal, have a far lower percentage of violent individuals than the native-born population.
And the defense “They don’t ever say ALL of the illegals are violent” is ridiculous on its face, and betrays an ignorance of how the human mind works and processes abstract concepts.
Finally, polarizing the groups between either “wanting to defend our borders” or “wanting completely wide open borders” is a phony dichotomy.
If the debate can’t be honest, then real solutions that balance security, cost, and humanity will never be found.
And politicians will continue to use their constituents to troll for votes.
Again…if you can’t understand this…the. it’s something you must look to yourself to understand why you don’t understand this.
And continue to be part of the problem where you can’t debate people who think differently from you, but instead slap them into a made-up box and argue with the made-up person in your mind.
That’s as a ridiculous statement as a conservative saying they would rather have foreigners from Moldova in America rather than citizens who are liberal.
In 1985 2.5 million illegal entrants were granted amnesty in return for a “promise” our border would be secured. It never was!
The devastating consequences are not in my head as you insultingly suggest, nor are the devastating consequences propaganda.
Let us take a look at the destructive social and economic consequences in just one county in California inflicted upon its citizens in 1995 when this massive invasion of our borders began to accelerate. CLICK HERE and scroll to page 93 for testimony given by JOAN ZINSER before the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DECEMBER 13, 1995
Good morning Chairman Smith and other honorable members of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims. I am Joan Zinser, Deputy Director of the San Diego County Department of Social Services. I direct the department’s Income Maintenance Bureau, which has responsibility for AFDC, Food Stamps and Medicaid eligibility determinations. I am here today to tell you about the effects of illegal immigration on the County’s assistance programs, and to present information regarding impacts on other county-funded services.
Impacts on San Diego County
In 1993, illegal aliens in San Diego County were estimated to be 7.9% of the population, or a total of almost 220,000 illegal aliens in a county with a population of slightly over 2 1/2 million. A 1993 Calffornia State Senate report estimated that the State, local governments - primarily the County - and schools incurred $304 million in costs to provide services to illegal aliens. These costs were offset by only $60 million in taxes generated by illegal aliens - leaving a net impact of $244 million.
Welfare Costs.
When a child is a US citizen, AFDC can be granted for the child but not the parent, if the parent is an undocumented immigrant. In 1992 there were 6,414 children born to undocumented immigrant parents in San Diego County hospitals. Each year, the illegal alien parents of nearly 2000 "citizen children" apply for and receive AFDC in San Diego County. The cumulative total of these "citizen child" cases continues to rise each year.
Public assistance is intended to support the citizen child, but is paid to the illegal alien parent and is, no doubt, used by the parent to support the entire family. Costs for providing AFDC to "citizen children" cases in San Diego totaled $37 million in 1993 for approximately 5430 AFDC cases.
Additional costs are incurred in Child Welfare Services. Combining costs for Out-of-Home and Family Maintenance services to families of illegal aliens results in an additional cost of $1.7 million.
Medicaid and Other Health-Related- Costs.
Medicaid services are an increasingly large portion of the costs involved in illegal immigration. In 1992, Medicaid paid for 6,414 births illegal alien mothers. Although studies have shown that illegal aliens use fewer Medicaid services than do the age-equivalent members of the general population, significant costs remain. Delivery costs are greater for babies with mothers lacking adequate prenatal care and many medical conditions are treated more cost-effectively in their early stages. Infectious diseases are also a major concern of the County. San Diego County has historically carried large costs because of illegal aliens with these problems. Costs associated with providing emergency and pregnancy related needs to illegal aliens are paid for under "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." During the 1992 calendar year, an estimated $37 million was paid for "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." Other costs, including uncompensated care in hospitals, community clinics, and other health services elevated the 1993 total costs to over $50 million.
Criminal justice.
A recent 90-day pilot project involved having INS Agents present in the county jails to interview those suspected of being an undocumented immigrant. Approximately 20% of the persons booked into the jails during that pilot were identified as being illegal aliens. With annual bookings of approximatel 105,000 persons a year, it is estimated that up to 21,000 were illegal aliens.
According to the San Diego County District Attorney, 8,521 felony crimes were committed by illegal aliens between 1987 and 1992. Illegal aliens commit an estimated 22% of felony crimes committed in the county. The number of misdemeanors committed during the same period in San Diego County by illegal aliens is estimated to be 17,000. In 1993, approximately 15. 1 % of the costs -accrued in dealing with crimes were spent on illegal aliens. Costs for illegal aliens to the legal system totaled $151 million in the County of San Diego for 1993.
Education.
Recently, a video of students crossing the border and getting on a school bus in San Diego County in order to receive free education was shown nationwide. Locally, we have worked to make sure that this situation does not recur, but education of the children of illegal aliens is also a significant CDSt. It is estimated that $60 million was spent in San Diego County in 1993 for education of illegal aliens".
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And, more recently see:
Illegal aliens cost California billions
2004
”Illegal immigration costs the taxpayers of California — which has the highest number of illegal aliens nationwide — $10.5 billion a year for education, health care and incarceration, according to a study released yesterday.”
Also see: Testimony about "51 Florida Hospitals in trouble" due to illegal aliens expenses:
Jun 10, 2008
”No need to editorialize. Here is a sampling of the sort of facts the politicians and pro-illegal lobby want you to ignore, yet expect you to continue to bear the burden of. Is it any wonder scores of hospitals in border states and elsewhere have shut down or closed their ER units!!!”
Then take a look at Texas Faces Rising Cost For Illegal Immigrant Care
Aug 19, 2010
Texas spent at least $250 million in the past year for medical care and imprisonment of illegal immigrants and other non-citizens.
And how about this: The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer
May 6, 2013
”In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar.”
And how about the tens of thousands of criminal aliens released into our nation’s population? See: Judicial Watch: 165,900 Criminal Aliens into US Population Through April 2014
Mar 2015
”Nearly 166,000 convicted criminal illegal aliens were released by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as of April, 2014. This is the analysis of 76 pages of DHS documents obtained by Judicial Watch via Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. The criminal illegal aliens include rapists, murderers and kidnappers.”
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Now, the question is, do you support an America first immigration policy which is merit based and forbids "immigrants" from receiving government cheese for at least five years?
JWK
American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America’s borders.
There are bigger fish to fry
99.9% of the Caravan will be deported.
Trump has already ended catch and release, which means they will be held till their claim is processed.
What is ridiculous? I do not respect people who look at the constant ugliness and ignorance of Donald Trump, yet still come away supporting the man as the leader of our nation. Being an American citizen does not automatically make someone a quality person or a good neighbor.
I would still take my chances with the family from Central America seeking a better life. At least they aren’t a known quantity as being horrible people.
You just want them to trample right on through our border with no processing at all? Is this the liberal version of legal asylum and immigration, if so I’d say some liberal politician is playing a bunch of libs……… as usual.
Walk outside take a deep breath, everything will be ok. If that don’t work attend the next “Scream at the sky” event we’re liberals gather on November 8th and collectively scream uncontrollably at the sky on the anniversary of Trump becoming president.
See you next week.
Only if the market tanks. If that happens I’ll sit beside that lady and scream to the sky with her.
Not a single person running fot office is suggesting that
I was talking about the people arriving at Ellis Island in my photo john. Hence, there was never any kind of need for them to be rioting or throwing rocks.
It is poor comprehension like that, that always has you posting such foolish threads like you do bud.
