Guthrie Kidnapping

If I put you and Nancy Grace side be side, she would make more sense. Sean Hannity has done an excellent job bringing thoughts to the table, too.

Move along and watch your youtube videos, Mr. Clear.

Of course she would.

I mean that’s clearly the entire point. She would always make more sense to you. That’s how she is still someone a decade after she was actually someone. That you treat entertainers as philosophers is Mel Brooks’ fault

Nobody said i watch YouTube videos. I find using social media as a news source the height of Strangelove

Come on man.

Now lets get back to the seriousness of the missing 84 year old lady.

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Politicians do have armed guards.

And nobody kidnaps them, I think you’re correct.

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Looking back now at all that’s happened it may be that someone got bent out of shape for some reason and kidnapped the mother out of revenge. Since no beliavable ransom was asked for and no contact with family attempted



..:thinking:

Everything points to an initial goal for the abductors got interupted by oportunists asking for Bitcoin.

No normal ransome was made in timely manner, opportunists reached TMZ with phony offerings and confused the whole scenario.

It just maybe that someone hired a local bum to kidnap her, they broke in, one kept an eye on Mrs. Guthrie and the other went out to take cameras down. That’d explain lingering there for 41 minutes and not stealing anything from the home.

Maybe the man at the door was the one who started all this.

DNA from inside the house may belong to those two abductors.

That, gun and back pack will produce the perp as soon as FBI catshes up with what they have.

Any day now.

Maybe they took her South to Mexico.

Someone in Tucson KNOWS the hired bum and I so believe if a large reward was offered THAT someone would talk.

Come on indeed.

Annonimous donor added 100 000 to the reward.

People who know who did it will not risk it for 200 000.

They’re close to the kidnapers and can’t manage to be annonimous. The crooks would know who it is.

200 000


Too little and tooooooo late.:face_holding_back_tears:

A terrible shame.

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A Million reward on day 24.

Yes it will make a difference and also MAY bring forth the sad fact that in cases like this time WAS of the essence and quick action is a must.

I am sorry. Very sory to have said that. It just makes me want to scream.

I have faith that the LAW would work it’s magic but when you have TIME as a precious commodity you have to take a lead and use all resources immidiately.

Again


.I am sorry to be this blant and hope with all my heart mom comes home soon and well.:face_holding_back_tears:

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Doesn’t look good at all.

I am wondering if it was a crime of opportunity or if they actually targeted her.

:folded_hands:

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I think they cased her house and kidnapped her with intentions of asking for a ransom.

No other reason to take her.

Something happened to twart those plans and they stayed low key. Other opportunists stepped in with their demands for Bitcoins which went nowhere.

Law has to follow a certain protocol and can solve this but it will take time.

If she survived first 72 hours and when a ransome demand wasn’t made to the family directly, (which would indicate a true kidnaper contact), a bombshel reward of a Million would spur someone on the side to come forward.
This kind of a crime HAS TO BE solved to discourage future attempts.

It’s much easier to kidnap someone that shoot one self out from a bank robbery with a loot of 20 thousand.

That second photo shows a same man on a different day.

Same body frame, same posture, same arms position only different shoes, = (different day ).

I am leaning towards an opportunist that has no US ID footprint and could melt back into Mexico and be untrackable. Likely Cartel or some organized gang.

Interesting how violence has suddenly boiled over in Mexico.

:thinking:

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Possible Mexican connection, yes.

But not Cartels.

They don’t engage in small caliber kidnapings , plus they deal quickly and prefer to stay low key when it comes to USA, their main customer.

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Life moves forward.

So sad.

Cartels have no interest in kidnapping this woman unless of course the family is involved in some sort of cartel business.

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They do with the border closed.

My money is still on one of the in-laws.

After some thought, one of the foreign theft rings probably makes more sense. Or a local crew trying to copy that MO. We know there are several Central American and South American gangs with what are essentially professional theft crews operating here in the US. They tend to target the homes of celebrities for high end items. A celebrity’s elderly mom could just pop up on their radar as a potential target. But the most likely answer is a home invasion, for theft, that went South.

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That makes sense, probably a lot more sense than one of the in-laws, who have been thoroughly investigated by now.