Guthrie Kidnapping

BY summer 2025, HHS has processed over 59,000 missing and exploited. And during recent ICE operations over 3,000 missing and explioted (cbs news)

Real oress overage does not get much press because it does not fit the anti ice narratives.

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It feels like lots of fragmented news is getting out. The ring camera is substantial. But then we hear fighting between local law enforcement and the fbi. Then there is the ransom notes. There is also the presence of law enforcement at a neighbors house. I am wondering if some of this might be a way they are communicating with the abuctors.

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This is the state of news reporting across the globe now. Everyone wants to be first and with social media incorrect information is posted as fact and then gets amplified.

Everyone assumes that the man at the door was there to get in before everything.
I think he was there after they already got in through the back.

I believe it’s kidnaping. Aparently nothing was stolen from the house, as I understand.
Also the reason the man was so nonshalant and easy going at the door I think he and an accomplice went in some other way, secured the lady, one was watching her and the other came out to remove the cameras.
I think another camera was also removed ouside, ( the wall or the roof ).
THEN they all 3 exited through the front.
All that activity took them 41 minutes.

The man at the door was probably hired hand to obduct her.
The reason the Sherriff is not saying WHO drove Ms. Guttrie home from dinner may be because her son in law may be considered as involved and he is the one who it was rumored drove her home.

Did he let someone in also?
But then
why wait till 2 AM? Oh I don’t know
this is so devastating.

I wish 'Columbo ’ would get of his high horse and let proffessionals do what they do best.

I believe the first ransome e-mail to be as the part of this kidnaping.
After that the rest may be opportunists latching on for scam and profit. The original ransomer stopped contacting because he didn’t have a way of sending a proof of " life or possession ".

While the " Columbo " is having a turf war with FBI family should forget the private investigators and UP the reward to a "Life-changing amount " as Paul Mauro called it.
There is someone who ‘knows’ the kidnapers but is afraid because they’re putting a bulls-eye on their back if they speak.
100 000 will not be enough to motivate them.

:joy:. That’s pretty funny

You are probably correct. At this point i think it will be a recovery of human remains rather then a live person. My eldest son pushed for good security system for us parents years ago. I recommend securiry and intrusion detection systems because if rusing crime in urban America.

One of my family members in Tokyo has installed shatter resistant windows and intrusion detection because of the increase in foreign nationals there who a committing breakins. Personally i believe that Japan should tighten their borders and restrict migrants. Open borders and globalism are destroying or weakening many societies. Europe is about finished. When the libs get control of the USA again, we will be in rapid decline. History repeats itself like the fall of the Roman empire.

My heart goes out to Savanna and her family on the fate of her missing mother. This probably could have been avoidable.

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It works. My property is a hard target, so, perps go elsewhere. And i do monitor my property.

The only thing funny is listening to left leaning citizens with no clue.

I have a ring cam. I am not taking it down. It stopped someone stealing my car at least once

Watching your property “proudly” is really silly

What exactly does that mean?

Protecting and monitoring ones property is a Constitutional right.

Easy come easy go for you.

What?

Using the word proudly with regards to monitoring your property because the left is up at arms about something is silly and probably retarded

Who is silly and who is retarded? Who is up in arms?

I am proudly taking care of my property and presenting a hard target. That encourages the thieves and perps to move on down the road.

I am not following or understandIng what you are sayin.

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I am glad you are not taking down your ring camera. Looks like it worked for you. The rest of what you said makes no sense to me.

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The right uses pride weirdly. The left uses pride differently and often weirdly too. It’s a weird adjective to use in the context

Yep, gay pride.

Now lets get back to the topic. There was nothing in place to protect that 84 year old mother.

And now we are in a complete disarray.

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I agree totaly about Globalism.
But not about metal rails on windows.
I’d rather see stricter laws like Singapour has.
Begin with sky high money penalties and finish with eye-for-en-eye and no bail retainment.

You treat people like friends and cuddle the criminals you get a lose gang harrasing everyone.
People have to be controled to a certain extent.
People are too stupid and in America too spoiled to behave.

Look at the polls.
Trump does great stuff and polls say 66 % believe we’re on a wrong track. Not much difference from Biden era polls on it.
But when kids graduate HS and can’t READ what do you expect.
OFCOURSE they can’t offer a sane opinion.

Nancy Guthrie is an innocent victim, she can be everyone’s mom, if she is wealthy or not doesn’t matter.
This case captivated the attention and hearts of the country and the World for that reason.
I have to believe that she is alive but even if God-forbid not this hainous case needs a quick close.
( 
IF ‘Columbo’ would step aside and let grownups do what they do best ).

Searching the home and sending "other " DNA from inside the home to Quantico HAD TO be done on day 2 NOT on 14.
Crime scene should have been sealed to date.
Reward up to astronomical numbers done on day 3.
NO money given without annonimous proof of life, possession and proof of KNOWLEDGE of what they want ANY money for.

By the way
if I were wealthy first thing I’d do is get a guard dog, body guard and a gun.

I’ll believe that she is still alive till the day they prove othervise.
Millions are praying for her, it may bring a miracle.

OK. That is so subjective and odd I am thinking Tim Walz may have hacked your account.

:rofl:

Cameras are a great security tool as this case shows.

I am getting pessimistic on her being found alive.

Hopefully this week brings us some answers.

:distorted_face: Look at new features on Ring Camera systems. Sure am glad my adult children got our house covered. And one could set up for who gets notifications. (You can also have glass break sensors installed in your home of someone breaks a window to gain access.) My residence has much more than Ring but it is a good backup. When “the gun slinger” and partner(s) arrived (before they gained access) family could have been alerted that things were going out of control. :distorted_face:

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You’re asking someone on the Left to have pride of ownership.

OH yes they do. Meanning

they protect THEIR stuff but your and mine belongs to everyone else even illegals.

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She lives alone.

All I’d do in her place is get a mean dog and a gun.

Or at least one of those buttons around your neck that you press in an emergency.

Or a spare phone in my underwear that can ping the location.

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The family needed to offer astronomical REWARD and jump in front of all other noise.

On the day 3 !!!

They were ready apparently to pay 6 Million in Bitcoin.

Dangle a Million in front of the crooks and someone would TALK.

Now the poor lady is pleading with them and hoping she will touch their sense of ‘doing the right thing ‘.

If they were sort of people who could be presuaded to ‘do the right thing’ they wouldn’t take mama in the first place.

I don’t understand these people.

I DO hope they get their mother back.

Somehow.

FBI is my only hope, the Columbo sherrif is an obstacle and useless.:roll_eyes:

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