Bend over and kiss our asses goodbye?
No planes. To easy to escape to safety in NATO country and then circle back to attack.
Small arms which include Javelins, Stingers and drones which he’s doing.
As long as Biden continue pushing back against those that do more…he will get my support.
But lets not forget how we got here in first place.
I must? Is that a demand?
Yes let’s remember how we got here.
I heard this author speak on the radio last night on my way home from work, and downloaded her book on the subject. It’s a fascinating read, and reminded me of a lot of history I’ve forgotten.
I know you are wedded to your simplistic narrative that this is all the fault of “EU Expansionism” and our decision-making to expand NATO.
But this is simply not the whole story.
TL/DR version… Yes we expanded NATO after seemingly promising not to do so…and yes that pissed Yeltsin off to no end.
However, Russian agency was part of the reason expansionism happened as well…most notably, Yeltsin’s prosecution of the First Chechen War in a very brutal manner scared the ■■■■ out of the former Soviet satellite states and led to the increased clamor to break away from the roadmap of the Partnership for Peace and accelerate their entry into NATO.
Not to mention one of the main reasons Putin ended up in power in the first place is because Yeltsin was guilty of a ■■■■ ton of corruption and needed to appoint a successor who would cover up for him (as Putin did by essentially pardoning Yeltsin- amazingly the author found this information in getting communications between Bill Clinton and Boris Yeltsin declassified- in these communications, Yeltsin pretty much admitted he was going to appoint Putin in order to protect himself, his family and his associates in crime- her push to get this info that yielded squawks of protest from Putin’s government- I found that fascinating).
Both Western and Russian leaders screwed up the peace following the Cold War. I know you hate Europe- but your hatred of Europe is not evidence your thesis is correct…it’s only evidence of your bias.
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I think that people forget just how terrible Yeltsin was,
The dude rolled tanks on the Parliament.
I understand the Russian role, I understand Putin is very bad man but that still doesn’t excuse EU push to Russian borders for their expansionism.
EU is just as guilty. Don’t be making excuses for em. You’re own bias is also showing.
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If a country wants to realign away from a kleptocracy into more of a free market system, why shouldn’t they?
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Do you ever read anything I write?
I mean… Actually read it?
Read my post again and please point out where I made any excuses for anybody. Be specific.
All I say is things aren’t as simple as “EU Bad”.
Yes they can…but we have no obligation to defend them.
It was EU that basically committed United States to do just that…to defend their expansionism.
Stop making excuses for em.
The US is a NATO country. They had the free choice to deny entry to these countries since entry into NATO requires unanimous consent.
Europe didn’t “make us” do anything.
I get it. You hate Europe.
And that hatred is causing you to oversimplify everything to “this happened because EU Bad”.
Again I’m not disagreeing with you. However you’re still making excuses.
No ■■■■ Dick Tracy.
And we should have denied them.
You have read my posts about our own leaders selling out to Europeans haven’t YOU Jay?
How is that an excuse? I said be specific.
I have.
It’s overly simplistic.
You have provided zero evidence your thesis is correct.
All you are showing…over and over…is you hate Europe. We get it.
Do better than this.
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Over simplicity is on your end…failure to see the larger picture. Maybe because you’re over educated who knows. But stop with your ■■■■■■■ insults of I’ll start insulting you.
Proof of your simplification.
And I’m not going to exonerate Europe of their role in all this. Not I will with NATO leaders.
So kiss their asses all you want. I’m not. America first baby.
Lol I’m the one giving the larger picture…not exonerating anybody.
I’m not the one saying “this all happened because EU bad”.
You used to argue better than this.
So sad…
What sad Jay is waste of good education. Get a refund.
For rest of folks here.
Yes Russia is bad…we see it every night on the news. But the news aren’t telling you the role that EU played in all this.
Libs here want to deny all that because EU is model they look up too.
Meanwhile talk of Putin demised…well it seems a large rally was hold in Moscow where hundreds of thousand people shown up waving Russia flags.
Just as I said while back…we are going to radicalize Russia people if we aren’t careful.
